March for the Alternative - London - Today

[Conservative,]

Okay...lets do this then.

I think the part in bold actually sums up exactly what this is about except it need to be done for the people not the self serving ideological policies of this government who actually don't seem interested in the majority of this country.


Do you not understand that cutting is the only way to save money so we can pay back the defecit?

I think you will find that public sector workers have always been paid less that private sector workers. The average pension is about £6,000 a year. Hardly gold plated. What you forget is that any other reform has
not been retrospective so this is quite a diversion in policy. They have contributed to their pensions for years and now face them being cut. Also this was not just about the pensions it was about the savage cuts in general. Interesting to know that whilst Osbourne didn't announce it they are cutting pensioner's winter fuel allowance by 25 % despite Cameron promising it would not be done.


Yes - however that is public sector work, they weren't forced into it were they? Their choice. And when the public sector complain about jobs being cut - the private sector has been cutting jobs by up to 50% - so really, they just need to learn that not everything revolves around them. Plus, private sector workers often have to make their own pension without Government funding - so again, the Public sector are lucky they even have that.

Yes Labour caused all the mess - the banking sector and global world crisis and recession had nothing to do with it. I think you will find this is just the beginning and I wonder how you will feel when we start plunging into a double dip recession, huge unemployment, and galloping inflation. This is the only thing the conservative government are successful at. Labourey do have a plan -halving the deficit over 4 years which is backed by nobel prize winners. The RBS Shares are now worth at least X3 than when Labour bailed them out so not a bad investment there.

What is this plan then? You say they have one, and that it's backed by Nobel Prize winners, but you haven't said what it is? Plus - I actually have proved in above posts that Labour are the ones that generally get us into a mess like this - and the Tories come in and clean it up. Margret Thatcher anyone? Did the best job of cleaning up after a recession ever. Double dip my arse, that will happen if Labour come in and print loads of money (which was part of their campaign last year) because it devalues the currency so then we go into inflation which will in turn spiral into hyper-inflation with more money flying about.

I think you should enjoy your short time in the sun because it will be short. The local elections in May will show a crushing defeat for both Lib Dems and Conservatives and the road for them started going downhill from the first week.

I think the Lib Dems will have awful poll results but actually, anyone with a bit of logic and common sense will realise that the Conservatives are doing their best and HAVE to cut things. The only people who will vote Labour (sorry if this offends anyone) are those who live on benefits and are upset because they're getting cut or those too stupid to realise that cuts have to be made otherwise our debt will grow. Labour will no doubt be voted in in 5-10 years time, and then they'll happily spend all our money again, and I gaurantee by 2035, there will be another recession.

[Inseriousity.]

Would it be considered prissy to suggest they're cluttering up the place? It's all well and good for this to be a democratic country, but 9 times out of 10 this rubbish leads to violence; which is when problems start.
I just have a mental image of an American chap yesterday, watching pictures of London and thinking "oh what a state." Why don't they learn that protesting isn't going to shift the Governments choice? They were voted in power for a reason, let them do their job.

I would much rather they cluttered up the place. I'm sure the vast majority of people at the march today did not expect a miracle and Cameron to go "GUESS WHAT GUYS, NO MORE CUTS" and I'm sure the vast majority of people at the march today are not against cuts completely but where they are but it's a democratic right to protest regardless of what Americans think, regardless of whether the government will change anything and I'd rather they did that than have a country where they were executed for doing so.

Democracy is not just about voting at the elections, it goes beyond that and that's why people will continue to protest.

[Mathew]

Then the whole protesting business seems rather pointless to me. If one half agree with some cuts and the other half don't think they can change anything, then it seems like a lost cause and they're wasting their time.

[Conservative,]

I would much rather they cluttered up the place. I'm sure the vast majority of people at the march today did not expect a miracle and Cameron to go "GUESS WHAT GUYS, NO MORE CUTS" and I'm sure the vast majority of people at the march today are not against cuts completely but where they are but it's a democratic right to protest regardless of what Americans think, regardless of whether the government will change anything and I'd rather they did that than have a country where they were executed for doing so.

Democracy is not just about voting at the elections, it goes beyond that and that's why people will continue to protest.

No one mentioned execution? Yes, they have a right to protest but do they need to use it? No. Someone already said this, but the money that could be saved will have to be spent on clearing up their mess - so it is illogical? I think this sort of protesting is pointless. Yes - they express their unhappiness, but it won't change anything so what's the point?

[Catzsy]

Okay...lets do this then.

Robbie come back when you actually have some valid knowledge about the matter. Margaret Thatcher ruined this country by her obsessive hatred of the unions which caused them to become even more militant and between them ruined most of the manufacting businesses in this country. Apart from that she devided the country with her policies and encouraged the rise of the 'yuppies' who did nothing for this country's growth at all. All Britain became was based on 'paper' in the financial industries. The whole thing crashed under her too. Have you never heard of 'Black Wednesday' when the country was in a terrible mess and had to go begging to the IMF for money. This was in 1992 when they had been in power for 13 years themselves.
The plan is to halve the deficit over 4 years! This obviously will mean cuts but staggered so inflation and umemplyment can be managed.

The only people who will vote Labour (sorry if this offends anyone) are those who live on benefits and are upset because they're getting cut or those too stupid to realise that cuts have to be made otherwise our debt will grow. Labour will no doubt be voted in in 5-10 years time, and then they'll happily spend all our money again, and I gaurantee by 2035, there will be another recession.

This is probably the most uniformed comment and ill judged I have ever heard on Habbox Forum almost in line with those who believe the holocaust never happened. I also think you should put the 'spending all our money' in perspective. The UK is still the 6th richest country in the world.

[Niall!]

I'm not the most political guy in the world so this will probably sound completely ******ed, but do we really need ALL those mps? Do we also really need to be in the EU which we probably spend billions on a year?

Also, I'm pretty sure vodafone or something haven't paid their taxes since they started. Why not just force them to pay or arrest the owner of the company?

[Catzsy]

I'm not the most political guy in the world so this will probably sound completely ******ed, but do we really need ALL those mps? Do we also really need to be in the EU which we probably spend billions on a year?

Also, I'm pretty sure vodafone or something haven't paid their taxes since they started. Why not just force them to pay or arrest the owner of the company?

I am with you on the EU and there are many, many companies who avoid paying tax and it should be sorted.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Robbie come back when you actually have some valid knowledge about the matter. Margaret Thatcher ruined this country by her obsessive hatred of the unions which caused them to become even more militant and between them ruined most of the manufacting businesses in this country. Apart from that she devided the country with her policies and encouraged the rise of the 'yuppies' who did nothing for this country's growth at all. All Britain became was based on 'paper' in the financial industries. The whole thing crashed under her too. Have you never heard of 'Black Wednesday' when the country was in a terrible mess and had to go begging to the IMF for money. This was in 1992 when they had been in power for 13 years themselves.
The plan is to halve the deficit over 4 years! This obviously will mean cuts but staggered so inflation and umemplyment can be managed.

Mrs Thatcher hated the unions by 1979 just as a fair portion of the country did for one single reason; they were far too powerful and abused that power. My history teacher who is a socialist, is a member of the Socialist Workers Party also admits this one simple fact which had led to unsustainable pay packets being demanded by the unelected unions who had already brought down two elected governments, that of Mr Heath and the other of Mr Callaghan.

The yuppies did do something for our growth so please don't be silly, hence why France and the EU now want to harmonise taxes in order to put out our competative advantage. The yuppies and the corporations aren't that important to our economy though, most people forget that it is small business which drives the United Kingdom and Mrs Thatcher did help small business during her stay in office, with low taxes and cutbacks on regulation.

Sadly her work on costly regulation has now been rolled back, imposed by a body which we cannot vote out of office.

A lot of right wingers don't, you certainly aren't alone. There are just a few Conservative fanboys who agree with what the tories have done - most people who actually know what they are talking about and have right-wing views don't agree with what's happening. The Conservatives are cutting things like the NHS, Education and other public sector services however then there's announcements like this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12852926 - which just absolutely takes the piss.

I wish all those marching today good luck and I hope it's a peaceful protest, this Government is awful and their cuts are tearing this country apart - they have taken this standpoint of "pay back debt as quickly as possible no matter what the consequences are" - when in reality the repayments need to be much more stable and should be done with less cuts to the people who need it most.

So instead of cutting pay and services, you want to cut EU/foreign aid/quangos - am I right?

Are all the people who are complaining in agreement with me there?

[Agnostic Bear]

So instead of cutting pay and services, you want to cut EU/foreign aid/quangos - am I right?

Are all the people who are complaining in agreement with me there?

I certainly am.

[Conservative,]

Robbie come back when you actually have some valid knowledge about the matter. Margaret Thatcher ruined this country by her obsessive hatred of the unions which caused them to become even more militant and between them ruined most of the manufacting businesses in this country. Apart from that she devided the country with her policies and encouraged the rise of the 'yuppies' who did nothing for this country's growth at all. All Britain became was based on 'paper' in the financial industries. The whole thing crashed under her too. Have you never heard of 'Black Wednesday' when the country was in a terrible mess and had to go begging to the IMF for money. This was in 1992 when they had been in power for 13 years themselves.
The plan is to halve the deficit over 4 years! This obviously will mean cuts but staggered so inflation and umemplyment can be managed.



This is probably the most uniformed comment and ill judged I have ever heard on Habbox Forum almost in line with those who believe the holocaust never happened. I also think you should put the 'spending all our money' in perspective. The UK is still the 6th richest country in the world.

Denying the holocaust and my comments are way different. Please tell me how you judge "richest country"? Because at the moment we have NO money. In fact, we owe £4trillion. We have NO money. Our economy may make money, but the Government owes money - therefore the Government spends money that it does not have.

As for your first point. Dan said what I was going to say pretty much. Just because I'm younger doesn't mean I don't understand anything. I understand politics and economics.

Oh and btw - you still haven;t outlined what Labour would do - cut? Yes, but cut what? And halve it in 4 years? That means £500billion a year...

I certainly am.

Ditto.