French Burka Ban comes into force

[Rozi]

But would you or she be accepting of the choice of say a shop owner who did not want the burka worn on his premises?

If she was wearing a full face covering burqa, then yes, but not if she was just wearing a hijab and a Abaya. I do believe the reqest to see a face, if asked politely, should be granted if your face is covered, and I'm pretty sure she does to.

[The Don]

ahaha god this is SUCH a lie. Yes, maybe some Muslim women who don't want to wear the burka or a headscarf are forced to, but I've spoken to many Muslim girls my age about wearing a headscarf, and whether they'd want to wear a burka and every single response has been the same: that they do it because they WANT to and have considered wearing a burka out of choice. One of my close Muslim friends went to a predominantly Muslim college because she wanted to wear a burka somewhere where she felt others would understand her choice.

But where in the religion does it say they have to? If they were forced to due to the religion, then maybe this decision is wrong. But to my understanding it isn't, so therefore they should follow the rules, it is unfortnunet though, I'm not denying that.

[Rozi]

But where in the religion does it say they have to? If they were forced to due to the religion, then maybe this decision is wrong. But to my understanding it isn't, so therefore they should follow the rules, it is unfortnunet though, I'm not denying that.

I'm not sure I understand your point, are you saying that because they're not FORCED to do something they shouldn't, despite the fact they want to? :S it's an issue that comes down to modesty, and to a certain sense, purity. If they want to be modest in the way they want to, then I really cannot see why this shouldn't be allowed except in situations where there is a need, or a request, to show your full face.

[The Don]

I'm not sure I understand your point, are you saying that because they're not FORCED to do something they shouldn't, despite the fact they want to? :S it's an issue that comes down to modesty, and to a certain sense, purity. If they want to be modest in the way they want to, then I really cannot see why this shouldn't be allowed except in situations where there is a need, or a request, to show your full face.

no i'm saying that if their religion forced them to wear them then the goverment wouldn't have a leg to stand on and shouldn't force them to not wear them.

[Ajthedragon]

Good for them. They should have to integrate into our culture, we seem to have to in places like Dubai otherwise we get arrested.

[ifuseekamy]

Big deal. The Qur'an only specifies that they should cover their chest and not wear short dresses. Everything else is cultural nonsense. In fact it is muslim men who shouldn't be staring at women, if they do then the sin is on them. Of course despite it being a massive sin to edit and reinterpret the holy books, it's been done since church was institutionalised.

[Eoin247]

Good for them. They should have to integrate into our culture, we seem to have to in places like Dubai otherwise we get arrested.

A good point I forgot to mention before actualy. A British couple got arrested in the UAE for publicaly kissing not too long ago I believe.

[Lamz]

I agree with this ban even though this ban will never be brang into enland. and it can't.

*Removed*
it ill start a riot
-we are already targets for terrorism
-its kind of hipocritical. nothing in england is english. Tea isn't english. Our "seuvenior's" are made in thalind & china. the queen is german etc...

(i think the last bit didn't make sense)

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[Catzsy]

It's illegal to wear a balaclava in public, so naturally, anything that hides your identity is equally illegal.

It is not illegal in the UK to wear a balaclava. Some places ask you to remove them though like motor cycle helmets.

This is quite interesting as there was a demonstration in Paris and a whole crowd turned up with their faces covered with Masks, balaclavas, motorcycle helmets etc and it was only the woman wearing the burka that got arrested. Only 2000 woman wear them - seems to just be Sarkozy(sic) trying to drum up votes but I think it will backfire badly on him. This is going to run and run.

[GommeInc]

We're both entirely different types of culture. France do not want it and voted for the ban, so it's up to them. I can see why they have banned it in some places, like identity and France are a bit picky with that even if you're wearing a hoody with the hood down (you get watched closely ). It's not even a recognised religious garment, it just appeared and became heavily associated with the Islamic faith. It's more known as a culturual garment making women out to be possessions :/