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    neither. gaga is a try-hard who proclaims her music to be better than it actually is, and her 'in your face' style/fashion/whatever is just getting |-) and jessie is just annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    And the proper music video for it is stupid and she made in that way to be ~*Controversial*~

    Listen to real music

    lol that video proves she has a huge set of pipes and has a lot of talent? just because she dresses "weird" and acts "controversially" doesn't mean she has no talent. she's a pop singer, what do you expect? they all try to be controversial and outdo each other, otherwise everyone would be boring.

    and don't try and tell me what "real music" is. there is no such thing as "real" music. you're obviously one of those people that think all pop music is talentless and has no meaning, in which case you should stop speaking about things which you don't know much about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirrty View Post
    neither. gaga is a try-hard who proclaims her music to be better than it actually is, and her 'in your face' style/fashion/whatever is just getting |-) and jessie is just annoying.
    are you not a kanye west fan lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas. View Post

    are you not a kanye west fan lmao
    but the difference between the two is that kanye's music actually lives up to his proclamations. there's no denying that my beautiful dark twisted fantasy >>>>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas. View Post
    lol that video proves she has a huge set of pipes and has a lot of talent? just because she dresses "weird" and acts "controversially" doesn't mean she has no talent. she's a pop singer, what do you expect? they all try to be controversial and outdo each other, otherwise everyone would be boring.

    and don't try and tell me what "real music" is. there is no such thing as "real" music. you're obviously one of those people that think all pop music is talentless and has no meaning, in which case you should stop speaking about things which you don't know much about.
    Someones a bit passionate about gaga. as i've already said, yes, she is mildly talented. But again, I'm sure with lots of professional help, a lot of amateur singers could be that good.

    Again, I never mentioned a correlation between acting controversial and talent, She does however, act controversial and if she relied purely of singing voice, she wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as she is today, the whole different thing is a gimmick, used by her, to get more fans.

    I don't think pop music is all talent less, your basing this on what, my dislike for gaga, who is an over the top, try hard? There are a lot more talented people than her, I dislike her in particular because a singer is someone who has a good voice, she doesn't rely on this, she relies on her quirky nature and tries to hard to be famous.



    I guarantee you, if she stayed like that and didn't dress weird, she would not be anywhere near as famous as she is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirrty View Post
    but the difference between the two is that kanye's music actually lives up to his proclamations. there's no denying that my beautiful dark twisted fantasy >>>>
    i agree. but that's your opinion. some people think that born this way ">>>>" and does live up to how she described it. there is no right or wrong when it comes to music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    Someones a bit passionate about gaga. as i've already said, yes, she is mildly talented. But again, I'm sure with lots of professional help, a lot of amateur singers could be that good.

    Again, I never mentioned a correlation between acting controversial and talent, She does however, act controversial and if she relied purely of singing voice, she wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as she is today, the whole different thing is a gimmick, used by her, to get more fans.

    I don't think pop music is all talent less, your basing this on what, my dislike for gaga, who is an over the top, try hard? There are a lot more talented people than her, I dislike her in particular because a singer is someone who has a good voice, she doesn't rely on this, she relies on her quirky nature and tries to hard to be famous.



    I guarantee you, if she stayed like that and didn't dress weird, she would not be anywhere near as famous as she is now.
    makes me laugh when people call artists "try hards". so you expect them to not put in any effort?

    anyway that's all irrelevant. if you think she's only famous because of how she dresses then that's fine, but i disagree. you initially said she doesn't have talent, which she blatantly does and now you're just going off into a completely different tangent to try and downgrade her because you know you're wrong.

    and no i was basing that on you telling me to listen to "real music" which is a stupid thing to say. and i enjoy the fact she doesn't rely on how good her voice is. her going all christina and mariah in her songs would annoy me. but hey, it's SUBJECTIVE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas. View Post
    i agree. but that's your opinion. some people think that born this way ">>>>" and does live up to how she described it. there is no right or wrong when it comes to music.

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    makes me laugh when people call artists "try hards". so you expect them to not put in any effort?

    anyway that's all irrelevant. if you think she's only famous because of how she dresses then that's fine, but i disagree. you initially said she doesn't have talent, which she blatantly does and now you're just going off into a completely different tangent to try and downgrade her because you know you're wrong.

    and no i was basing that on you telling me to listen to "real music" which is a stupid thing to say. and i enjoy the fact she doesn't rely on how good her voice is. her going all christina and mariah in her songs would annoy me. but hey, it's SUBJECTIVE.
    I expect musicians to put effort in, obviously. I meant try hard in the aspect of her going out dressed up in meat, that is trying too hard to be different.

    She isn't really talented, obviously she does have some talent, I was exaggerating earlier, but she isn't that talented.

    when I said listen to real music, I was joking, you're quite entitled to listen to whoever you want, but gaga isn't as talented as your making her out to be. There are far more talented people out there, she does have an ok singing voice, but what did she become famous off? her gaga persona.

    If you enjoy an artist because they rely on their image more than their vocal quality, then fair enough, but I enjoy musicians who aren't fake and sound good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    I expect musicians to put effort in, obviously. I meant try hard in the aspect of her going out dressed up in meat, that is trying too hard to be different.

    She isn't really talented, obviously she does have some talent, I was exaggerating earlier, but she isn't that talented.

    when I said listen to real music, I was joking, you're quite entitled to listen to whoever you want, but gaga isn't as talented as your making her out to be. There are far more talented people out there, she does have an ok singing voice, but what did she become famous off? her gaga persona.

    If you enjoy an artist because they rely on their image more than their vocal quality, then fair enough, but I enjoy musicians who aren't fake and sound good.
    how do you know she is trying hard and literally isn't just like that... either way i don't care because i like that she is different and has balls unlike a lot of her peers.

    and yes, she really is that talented. she writes music and lyrics, sings live (well), plays piano, produces, dances, directs videos and has creative input into all of her work. there are more talented people out there, of course. many of whom i listen to. but i like her songs, and clearly so do all the millions of people that have bought her records and made her so successful. idgaf if she relies on her image to make her famous, infact i'm glad she did because otherwise these songs i enjoy so much wouldn't exist.

    and she sounds very good. in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas. View Post
    how do you know she is trying hard and literally isn't just like that... either way i don't care because i like that she is different and has balls unlike a lot of her peers.

    and yes, she really is that talented. she writes music and lyrics, sings live (well), plays piano, produces, dances, directs videos and has creative input into all of her work. there are more talented people out there, of course. many of whom i listen to. but i like her songs, and clearly so do all the millions of people that have bought her records and made her so successful. idgaf if she relies on her image to make her famous, infact i'm glad she did because otherwise these songs i enjoy so much wouldn't exist.

    and she sounds very good. in my opinion.
    Because of the video of her singing 5 years ago before she was famous. She only became famous when she started acting differently, she is fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    Because of the video of her singing 5 years ago before she was famous. She only became famous when she started acting differently, she is fake.
    she still has songs like that and performs them just like that live. and of course she switched up her image when she got famous, but maybe she just didn't have the money to afford the designer stuff she wears now? i know a lot of it is exaggerated, of course it is. but i think it's genuine. and somehow, whatever you say isn't going to make me like her, her music, her image or her general persona any less.
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    Jessie J I think I can relate to her music more that Lady GaGa's




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