Can we get one thing straight?

[Catzsy]

The rules have sure declined on this forum. Back in the day any video bar porn was generally allowed as long as a sufficient warning was given. Why on earth was this changed? Kids can just go onto YouTube these days and watch videos with all manners of violence and swearing in. I really don't understand why the moderators are so set on censoring the videos posted here. You aren't protecting the youth, you're just annoying everyone. And I really don't understand why a video that contains filtered words has to be put in a spoiler. It's a video, not an image and spoiler tags aren't stopping anyone from playing it.

The history of this is that links with warnings were allowed until videos were permitted to be embedded in the forum and then spoilers introduced because you weren't allowed to post videos directly on the forum before. Tbh I do think that from my point of view that spoilers make the forum look tidier and it's hardly an onerous task to put them in it.

[GommeInc]

True but in my opinion, the video not playing automatically doesn't act as an indication that the video will have swearing in it, so there still isn't really a way of knowing whether to expect swearing or not.

And the spoiler does? The warning, the play button and the spoiler are all different. The warning should be sufficient for just a video without a spoiler, it's a waste of a moderators time to have them enforce something that is unnecessary.

[Richie]

The history of this is that links with warnings were allowed until videos were permitted to be embedded in the forum and then spoilers introduced because you weren't allowed to post videos directly on the forum before. Tbh I do think that from my point of view that spoilers make the forum look tidier and it's hardly an onerous task to put them in it.

So if I just link people to a youtube video with a warning above the link and if it swears more than you deem "mild", that's fine?

What also annoys me is I can play a song with **** in it once but if the same song says it 10 times it's deemed as inappropriate, because that makes sense.

[Catzsy]

And the spoiler does? The warning, the play button and the spoiler are all different. The warning should be sufficient for just a video without a spoiler, it's a waste of a moderators time to have them enforce something that is unnecessary.

Habbox is responsible for content directly posted on the forum that's why when embedded videos were allowed spoilers were introduced. I don't mind either way tbh but the reasoning for them to be brought in was sound.

[GommeInc]

Habbox is responsible for content directly posted on the forum that's why when embedded videos were allowed spoilers were introduced. I don't mind either way tbh but the reasoning for them to be brought in was sound.

Wrong - All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Habbox.com, habboxforum.com Forum, or Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) can be held responsible for the content of any message. It's in the Terms and Conditions.

[Catzsy]

Wrong - All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Habbox.com, habboxforum.com Forum, or Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) can be held responsible for the content of any message. It's in the Terms and Conditions.

That's why is was brought in. That's all I am saying.

[GommeInc]

That's why is was brought in. That's all I am saying.

How on earth does that make sense? Habbox isn't responsible for the content, hence why the Terms and Conditions say this. Infact, I think the ToC is written out by default to suggest content is not the responsibility of the forum owners and creator (Jelsoft). The spoiler is a bit of an unnecessary step to protect members when red writing isn't hard to see and by clicking play you've eliminated any further responsibility for the video unless there are hefty reports about how a member died in the watching of the video.

[Catzsy]

How on earth does that make sense? Habbox isn't responsible for the content, hence why the Terms and Conditions say this. Infact, I think the ToC is written out by default to suggest content is not the responsibility of the forum owners and creator (Jelsoft). The spoiler is a bit of an unnecessary step to protect members when red writing isn't hard to see and by clicking play you've eliminated any further responsibility for the video unless there are hefty reports about how a member died in the watching of the video.

Well I am only telling you the history behind it. Links were allowed with warnings as Habbox management at the time did not want them directly on the forum. Could have been something to do with the Habbo Way at the time, I am not sure. Spoilers do look tidier and also there is a problem that the actual part of the embedded video showing is mildly inappropriate or mildly avoids the filter which happens quite often so it would get even more confusing as to when a spoiler should be added.

[GommeInc]

Well I am only telling you the history behind it. Links were allowed with warnings as Habbox management at the time did not want them directly on the forum. Could have been something to do with the Habbo Way at the time, I am not sure. Spoilers do look tidier and also there is a problem that the actual part of the embedded video showing is mildly inappropriate or mildly avoids the filter which happens quite often so it would get even more confusing as to when a spoiler should be added.

No it wouldn't, for the very reasons you've mentioned When it does that, enforce the rule but if members forget to and the video is completely harmless then don't bother and go waste your time doing something else, like talking to your members

[Chippiewill]

Wrong - All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Habbox.com, habboxforum.com Forum, or Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) can be held responsible for the content of any message. It's in the Terms and Conditions.

Habbox is still responsible to moderate the content.