Emirates Cup Tomoz!!!

[Spuds]

the Emirates cup for 5 years

lol, jkjk they've won nothing. thats why Arsene either fix's up his ways & tactics or goes.

2 years was okay but 6 years of nothing & then not even winning the EC...

So Arsenal are doing good but not superb?

[Lamz]

So Arsenal are doing good but not superb?

yeah, we qualify for leagues we just don't win them

[Spuds]

yeah, we qualify for leagues we just don't win them

Twenty teams per year qualify for the league, nineteen of them don't win it, anyway, you've just said Arsenal are doing good but not superb and earlier said before the FA Cup victory Manchester City were doing good but not superb, which hints that since then you believe they've improved, so surely a move away from Arsenal to Manchester City is a step up?

[Lamz]

Twenty teams per year qualify for the league, nineteen of them don't win it, anyway, you've just said Arsenal are doing good but not superb and earlier said before the FA Cup victory Manchester City were doing good but not superb, which hints that since then you believe they've improved, so surely a move away from Arsenal to Manchester City is a step up?

a move does benifit the players yes, but if they have been at a squad for a long period of time & then because you see a team doing good you just say "**** You i'm gone" come'on now...

Wheres the loyalty??? NO FOOTBALLER is loyal anymore. like i said before... they all want success & money.

[Spuds]

a move does benifit the players yes, but if they have been at a squad for a long period of time & then because you see a team doing good you just say "**** You i'm gone" come'on now...

Wheres the loyalty??? NO FOOTBALLER is loyal anymore. like i said before... they all want success & money.

Clichy had been at Arsenal since 2003, he was the last of the invincibles, to label him disloyal is somewhat amusing. As you said, he was at Arsenal for a long period, a period where he'd won his last trophy in 2005, he's 26 and about to enter his prime, he doesn't want to waste those years. When a player retires they look back at what they won, what's the point of being a footballer if you don't have the desire to win things? This is was separates clubs like Arsenal and Manchester City, you expect players to be happy not winning anything for six years, we expect them to have a hunger to win.

[Lamz]

yh they should be hungry for the wins but if thats the case, why don't they demand the manager to change things instead of leaving

[luce]

yh they should be hungry for the wins but if thats the case, why don't they demand the manager to change things instead of leaving

I think it's just commonly known that Arsenal aren't going to do anything, they have potential but they get beat in finals by Birmingham. Also all this talk about Fab leaving has damaged the club because if your captain and best player pretty much openly wants to leave other players, Nasri etc, are all linked as well. Personally i think it's time for Wenger to step down before he is asked to leave. Yes he's been good and had that one team but being a good manager can build a team year after year and not just feed off the success of the invincibles.

Also the fans are starting to wake up as the boo'd the team off when the lost the EC.

[StefanWolves]

Is this a bitter Arsenal fan? What? Noooo, that cant happen seriously!

How many games have you been to sonny jim?

[Lamz]

Is this a bitter Arsenal fan? What? Noooo, that cant happen seriously!

How many games have you been to sonny jim?

a lot; i don't keep the tickets so i can't give u an exact figure

I think it's just commonly known that Arsenal aren't going to do anything, they have potential but they get beat in finals by Birmingham. Also all this talk about Fab leaving has damaged the club because if your captain and best player pretty much openly wants to leave other players, Nasri etc, are all linked as well. Personally i think it's time for Wenger to step down before he is asked to leave. Yes he's been good and had that one team but being a good manager can build a team year after year and not just feed off the success of the invincibles.

Also the fans are starting to wake up as the boo'd the team off when the lost the EC.

please don't remind me of how stupid that last goal of the CC was... :L

Yes Wenger does need to call it quits & leave but the thing is.. the board & directors know that they won't have to spend an arm & a leg on a new manager; they are happy to let arsenal fall to the 10-20 side of the table because at this rate, that is whats going to happen.

[luce]

the board & directors know that they won't have to spend an arm & a leg on a new manager; they are happy to let arsenal fall to the 10-20 side of the table because at this rate, that is whats going to happen.

i don't get what you're saying there about money and falling down the table?