Bye Rare Values Department

[FlyingJesus]

No graphics do everything for everyone, kk



no soz, graphics isnt

(although we need a manager, @xxMATTGxx

I'll be graphics manager, not like you guys do any work for me to manage anyway

[Kasabian]

I'll be graphics manager, not like you guys do any work for me to manage anyway

@xxMATTGxx can we have flyingjesus as manager

[Lewis]

What I don't understand is why fansites even use rare values anymore, everyone goes by the marketplace taking off a few coins. Although prices can be rigged, you can't be sure the actual habbox price would be correct. I used to use HX rv but ever since the marketplace, I don't see a much of a point. I only use it for items that can't go in the market... for example, rare teleports.

[lawrawrrr]

What I don't understand is why fansites even use rare values anymore, everyone goes by the marketplace taking off a few coins. Although prices can be rigged, you can't be sure the actual habbox price would be correct. I used to use HX rv but ever since the marketplace, I don't see a much of a point. I only use it for items that can't go in the market... for example, rare teleports.

Not everyone does. Maybe some people just use it for the non-tradeables but that doesn't mean it's worth getting rid of.

[Zelda]

Now before i go into criticising it, i do think rare values is useful if stuff can't be put in mp, or isn't in there currently, but i really think it needs stuff that shows more then the mp can show so people will actually look at it. At the moment there is no point looking because of a few simple factors -

1) Market place everyone goes by taking off an accordance amount of credits to give a good shop price by, therefore our prices only reflect that anyway, and it's easy enough to just look at mp in the first place because of that.

2) If mp is rigged, shop prices will still go around this to try sell higher, if it's rigged lower then theres nothing shops can do about it other than don't sell yet or sell lower, so prices in shops will still work around this and our values will work accordingly.

3) Where shops are selling much lower than cheapest mp offer, the massive gap between average and lowest offer would show to generally just look at average for price range, as this is the more important detail anyway.

4) In the case that the average has been rigged up or down, then in all honesty all shop values will move up and down and therefore our values should meet according to that anyway.

Therefore with current circumstances, we do need something extra to actually show more to it, the only real benefit of currently looking on here over the site is pictures for any graphics work and the non-mpables.

[jasey]

i said it ages ago that rare values is practically useless work for the most part. no one is ever going to use the rare values site to find out whether their bensalem furniture is worth one credit or two credits. then i see the change history and someone is actually taking time to update the value from two to one to two to one for such an uncommon piece of furniture. literally only five percent of the values on there should be updated if the department stays. it is a waste of manpower and a make-work project to update values that people will be lenient on (someone worth one or two credits and hardly ever traded) or that are easy to verify in the marketplace. i remember when i worked in rare values there was a call to stop adding 'seasonals' or 'collections' to the page as habbo was churning out one after another yet they are updated monthly and sometimes weekly by someone who really has no accurate way of deciding is something is worth one or two credits. if you want to do rare values, stick to the things that people really care about. you know, the rares. no one needs to be updating the value of a norm or a collection item that is worth a pittance that furniture shop owners and the marketplace will govern without any work from habbox at all.

[Lewis]

Now before i go into criticising it, i do think rare values is useful if stuff can't be put in mp, or isn't in there currently, but i really think it needs stuff that shows more then the mp can show so people will actually look at it. At the moment there is no point looking because of a few simple factors -

1) Market place everyone goes by taking off an accordance amount of credits to give a good shop price by, therefore our prices only reflect that anyway, and it's easy enough to just look at mp in the first place because of that.

2) If mp is rigged, shop prices will still go around this to try sell higher, if it's rigged lower then theres nothing shops can do about it other than don't sell yet or sell lower, so prices in shops will still work around this and our values will work accordingly.

3) Where shops are selling much lower than cheapest mp offer, the massive gap between average and lowest offer would show to generally just look at average for price range, as this is the more important detail anyway.

4) In the case that the average has been rigged up or down, then in all honesty all shop values will move up and down and therefore our values should meet according to that anyway.

Therefore with current circumstances, we do need something extra to actually show more to it, the only real benefit of currently looking on here over the site is pictures for any graphics work and the non-mpables.

basically everything I meant but you explained it 10x better

[Andii]

lol i been in rare values for agesssss and loved it going around seeing trades and posting what i saw, but now certain staff just used the marketplace values in their reports so what i noticed was that the rare values were just being the same as marketplace so i dont use them and also think they are sorta useless

[Munex]

I just tried to use the rare values to find the Limited Edition Rares ... I can't find them. Am I being stupid or do you not cover LTD Rares?

[Kyle]

From what I understand, the marketplace is the main source of values even for the rare value staff anyway. Even if you're basing some values off trading it's highly likely that even those trades are based on marketplace prices lol.

Only thing I've ever looked on the habbox site for values of in recent years are super rares, items that aren't currently being sold in the marketpalce or items that aren't sellable in the marketplace (like linking teleports) and even then the prices have often turned out to be way off what I actually end up buying/selling for. Prime example being the ads_1800 teles. There have been a number of reports in the forum of users buying and selling them far below the price displayed on the site but it remains the same. It's nice for you to have that forum for non-staff to post but saying THANKS FOR THE VALUES and then not even bothering to update your site is a bit pointless?

If it was updated more frequently and accurately I think it could still be useful for some but right now I can see it being made obsolete if habbo ever decide to allow us to trade linking teleports in the marketplace and display a sell history of items that aren't currently being sold.

Also just as an improvement for the current search feature, you need to somehow make it so that users can search a number of things to come up with the same result cos it's sometimes difficult to find items with weird names that we know as having other names. e.g. (I know it's been changed in the hotel now) jp_rare = shishi odoishi. Also plasto chairs. They're all called "chair" - no colours or anything - and if you search "plasto" only two transparent items come up.