is revenge rep allowed

[GommeInc]

Basically the previous rule/system meant you couldn't negative rep someone after they repped you because this would be seen as revenge rep even though it is most likely legitimate. The rule was changed because it isn't revenge rep if the comment refers to a post they have made or their attitude, as this legitimises the point you are trying to convey and therefore isn't in revenge. It was a pretty good rule change

Before the rule:

<comment war in some thread somewhere>

<User 1 -reps you saying you need a life>
<User 2 -reps them saying "you're point was invalid">

User 2 would have their rep removed, even though the comment isn't about the rep but a point made somewhere else. It is removed because it was done so soon after the other person repped, and the other user has no life and gets upset over the rep and asks for its removal.

After the rule:

<comment war>

<User 1 -reps saying grow up>
<User 2 -reps saying "Your arguments are useless and your attitude stinks>

No one would have their rep removed as they are both legitimate. It's only revenge if User 2 says "revenge rep" or "see how you like it". If they say "No you grow up, your point was equally invalid" this is then considered legitimate rep and not revenge rep, as they are referring to something externally to the rep and its comment.

In short: The rule was changed so rep isn't removed for the sake of it and brings the forum one tiny baby step closer to not having rep removed at all.

[Kardan]

Basically the previous rule/system meant you couldn't negative rep someone after they repped you because this would be seen as revenge rep even though it is most likely legitimate. The rule was changed because it isn't revenge rep if the comment refers to a post they have made or their attitude, as this legitimises the point you are trying to convey and therefore isn't in revenge. It was a pretty good rule change

Before the rule:

<comment war in some thread somewhere>

<User 1 -reps you saying you need a life>
<User 2 -reps them saying "you're point was invalid">

User 2 would have their rep removed, even though the comment isn't about the rep but a point made somewhere else. It is removed because it was done so soon after the other person repped, and the other user has no life and gets upset over the rep and asks for its removal.

After the rule:

<comment war>

<User 1 -reps saying grow up>
<User 2 -reps saying "Your arguments are useless and your attitude stinks>

No one would have their rep removed as they are both legitimate. It's only revenge if User 2 says "revenge rep" or "see how you like it". If they say "No you grow up, your point was equally invalid" this is then considered legitimate rep and not revenge rep, as they are referring to something externally to the rep and its comment.

In short: The rule was changed so rep isn't removed for the sake of it and brings the forum one tiny baby step closer to not having rep removed at all.

The rule change is fine, I just have an issue that -reps get removed in any case.

[GommeInc]

The rule change is fine, I just have an issue that -reps get removed in any case.

Same. At least this changes brings the forum closer to not removing rep Before the change -rep seemed to be removed for any odd reason.

[-Nick]

Shouldn't be aloud!

[Chris]

The reputation system is flawed and has been for a long time. I've noticed that certain members use their high rep power to abuse it and issue it willynilly. Ideally I want to turn rep off and introduce a like system instead. The rep would still be displayed in the postbit and you would still be able to see all the rep you have recieved in user cp, but you wouldn't be able to issue anymore. The only think stopping me is the inevitable uproar that it will cause.

[Kardan]

The reputation system is flawed and has been for a long time. I've noticed that certain members use their high rep power to abuse it and issue it willynilly. Ideally I want to turn rep off and introduce a like system instead. The rep would still be displayed in the postbit and you would still be able to see all the rep you have recieved in user cp, but you wouldn't be able to issue anymore. The only think stopping me is the inevitable uproar that it will cause.

Indeed it would cause an uproar, since the reputation system will be made pointless. The people that earned a high amount of reputation points, and even those who purchased reputation points back in the day will have their effort and money gone to waste. If a new system is introduced, it should be done so that people with a high reputation retain some sort of advantage over those that don't.

[FlyingJesus]

Indeed it would cause an uproar, since the reputation system will be made pointless. The people that earned a high amount of reputation points, and even those who purchased reputation points back in the day will have their effort and money gone to waste. If a new system is introduced, it should be done so that people with a high reputation retain some sort of advantage over those that don't.

Which can't be done with a like system or anything else really

Is there actually any bonus to a like system over rep? We already essentially have it in that you can see how many (plus) reps a post has so I really don't understand the argument for changing it

[Kardan]

Which can't be done with a like system or anything else really

Is there actually any bonus to a like system over rep? We already essentially have it in that you can see how many (plus) reps a post has so I really don't understand the argument for changing it

Yup.

I suggest we keep rep power, and just have the +reps and -reps visible on each post. So a +5, -3 for example. This gives us the 'like' system, and keeps reputation.

[Chris]

Indeed it would cause an uproar, since the reputation system will be made pointless. The people that earned a high amount of reputation points, and even those who purchased reputation points back in the day will have their effort and money gone to waste. If a new system is introduced, it should be done so that people with a high reputation retain some sort of advantage over those that don't.

If people with high rep power retained an advantage then there would be no point in turning rep off in the first place.

Which can't be done with a like system or anything else really

Is there actually any bonus to a like system over rep? We already essentially have it in that you can see how many (plus) reps a post has so I really don't understand the argument for changing it

The only thing you can do with a like system is...like posts. Another option is to turn off -rep and allow for +rep only.

[Kardan]

If people with high rep power retained an advantage then there would be no point in turning rep off in the first place.



The only thing you can do with a like system is...like posts. Another option is to turn off -rep and allow for +rep only.

Why does -rep need to be turned off?