Gay Poll...

[Spoltage]

Lol my thoughts exactly. Gay people have the same rights as anyone else.

urm no we dont.. for a start we dont have the right to msrrige (uk) and in many other countries you can be sentenced to death for being lgbt

sam

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sorry im just going to reply when i go on computer tommorrow, my phone/internet is just ******* posting up for me sorry

sam

[Mark]

urm no we dont.. for a start we dont have the right to msrrige (uk) and in many other countries you can be sentenced to death for being lgbt

sam

May as well discuss women's rights while we're on the matter of other countries, it's a totally controversial topic. Gay people get exactly the same rights as anyone else, apart from marriage which is an ancient old ritual that goes back YEARS.

[Joe]

To be honest I'll always be for Gay rights.

I always try to justify this because I'm not gay myself, but I really don't see how people can give a valid reason for why homosexuals should be treated differently.

[Spoltage]

May as well discuss women's rights while we're on the matter of other countries, it's a totally controversial topic. Gay people get exactly the same rights as anyone else, apart from marriage which is an ancient old ritual that goes back YEARS.

decided to attempt to reply but sorry if this messes up.

yes marrige is ancient but this is moderen times, why cant we get married in a church (one that is happy to do so) like straight people??

yes we have sinilar rights as we are allowed to adopt and more (apart drom northen ireland lgbt couples - only a single lgbt pwrson is allowed to adopt) so what is one more right?!

i have just read that same-sex marrige laws may be in place by 2015 - woo even though im nt planning on being married for a long time lol

really i i made this poll more to see who minded gay people and who discriminste against them, i obvs wordered it as rights but owell

sam

[dbgtz]

decided to attempt to reply but sorry if this messes up.

yes marrige is ancient but this is moderen times, why cant we get married in a church (one that is happy to do so) like straight people??

Because those religions do not condone it and should be allowed to marry who they want. Why should gay people be allowed to impose their will on these people when they have a clear alternative with equal rights?

yes we have sinilar rights as we are allowed to adopt and more (apart drom northen ireland lgbt couples - only a single lgbt pwrson is allowed to adopt) so what is one more right?!

i have just read that same-sex marrige laws may be in place by 2015 - woo even though im nt planning on being married for a long time lol

really i i made this poll more to see who minded gay people and who discriminste against them, i obvs wordered it as rights but owell

sam

I wouldn't really call marriage a right.

Anyway I'm not for gay rights, I'm for equal rights.

[Spoltage]

not even goinf to attempt to qoute your paragraphs sepeertly so..

yes they have their belifes and noone should impose which i why i put in brackets "one that is happy to do so"

exactly equal rights.. whicb in turn is fighting for everyone to have the same rights (including lgbt people) so why cant we have the equal right to marrige? even if u dnt see marrige as a right (i kinda get that) it is still a right in the eye of the law

sam

[Richie]

I voted Against just because the poll is silly. It's like asking 'Do you think paedophiles should go to prison?' besides we all already know that everyone has rights... well apart from women.

[Spoltage]

I voted Against just because the poll is silly. It's like asking 'Do you think paedophiles should go to prison?' besides we all already know that everyone has rights... well apart from women.

not everyone has equal rights though.. no pedos should be killed, sexist much?

sam

[-:Undertaker:-]

i get your point that everyone should have equal rights... however humanity bas changed, coloured peolle now have rights, wemon have rights. right now i can not think of any other groups fighting for rights apart from lgbt....

sam

The past circumstances you speak of was because the likes of black people, gay people and women were being denied their individual rights - individual rights are not exclusive to WASPS, it is only because governments have not followed individual rights (and still refuse to via anti-discrinmination laws and affirmative action) that we've never had it implemented properly.

The idea of gay rights for example isn't individual rights. So take the example of anti-discrimination laws and 'hate crimes' - Police actually assign more time and treat a crime more seriously if its given the status of a hate crime (ie, somebody being attacked for being gay) than they do with normal out of the blue attacks. Is that right? I certainly don't think so, I think whats wrong with an attack is that an individual is having his safety and well being taken from him rather than the reasons behind the attack.

“You have to remember, rights don't come in groups we shouldn't have 'gay rights'; rights come as individuals, and we wouldn't have this major debate going on. It would be behavior that would count, not what person belongs to what group.” ― Ron Paul

Does that make sense? in other words, being attacked for being gay shouldn't be treated as any worse as being attacked for having blue socks.

[Spoltage]

i get what you are saying, ok so rights should be indevidual and everyone should have equal right no matter who they are, so why then are some people who are fighting for equal rights agaisnt gay people having these same rights??

sam

The past circumstances you speak of was because the likes of black people, gay people and women were being denied their individual rights - individual rights are not exclusive to WASPS, it is only because governments have not followed individual rights (and still refuse to via anti-discrinmination laws and affirmative action) that we've never had it implemented properly.

The idea of gay rights for example isn't individual rights. So take the example of anti-discrimination laws and 'hate crimes' - Police actually assign more time and treat a crime more seriously if its given the status of a hate crime (ie, somebody being attacked for being gay) than they do with normal out of the blue attacks. Is that right? I certainly don't think so, I think whats wrong with an attack is that an individual is having his safety and well being taken from him rather than the reasons behind the attack.



Does that make sense? in other words, being attacked for being gay shouldn't be treated as any worse as being attacked for having blue socks.