Woman Attempts Suicide At Comic Con

[Catchy]

Some of the comments on this thread are disgusting, ignorant and like @FlyingJesus; said, uneducated. I believe you need to walk a mile in these peoples shoes before you're quick to judge, mental health is complex and hard for people to comprehend with. It's not just a matter of just saying "well dey need help!!!" because usually that doesn't even treat the actual cause of the underlying issue. Of course these people need help but I think what doesn't help is going back into a society with such negative views and opinions which we've all witnessed in this thread.

Honestly some of the comments lol my little sister wouldn't even come up with such ****.

[karter]

If others with the same problems can deal with it, so can the rest of us.

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[lemons]

at least she is in safe hands now

[Ardemax]

Well it's a good thing to see another educated suicide and mental health debate on the forum. Props to everyone.

[Cerys]

I think the fact that she was intoxicated makes me like, 1% feeling less sorry for her, but still!
I'm glad they got her down safely

[efq]

Glad someone saved her.

I deal with lots of depressed and suicidal people. I go out with paramedics sometimes and they respond to people threatening to jump off overpasses. I remember the last time the paramedic saying to the guy:

"Mate, you can't sit and threaten to jump off an overpass and expect nothing to be done about it. Can you foresee the impact if you landed in front of someones car? Because if you killed one of my family members from landing on their car from jumping I'd be pretty *REMOVED* off with you. Now you're going to be restrained to the bed in the ambulance and that's that. I'm not having you jump out the back of my ambulance and cause me to crash."

Mental health isn't nice, they can't help it and it can be seen as a selfish act. But suicide takes a lot and a lot to go through with. Somebody deliberately trying to be selfish wouldn't go through with suicide, the bodies natural defences in stopping harm kicks in. Even to the point of gagging so you can't swallow pills etc. For someone to go through with suicide means they need to really not be in control of their mental state and really be bad. And that is really sad and upsetting.

But people like the paramedics and most services don't sympathise up front. They can't make them feel like it's ok. They've got to be firm. When I heard the paramedic swear at the guy I realised it wasn't that outrageous. Suicide is bad enough of course but suicide where you are endangering others typically is a sign of a cry for help and doesn't always follow through. People who hang do so to end their lives and not endanger others. People who you here about on edge of buildings, bridges, overpasses etc always seem to be talked out of it but usually wouldn't of gone through with it (thank god).

But mental illnesses are so far from understood that it isn't really fair to judge anybody no matter how big or small their issue. We only understand a tiny fraction of the mind and brain.

Anyway, the paramedic that night manage to end it on a good note by saying to the patient "Oi mate, can you stop kicking me? I have a models face." which made the patient, me and the Police laugh.

Attention seeking/cry for help attempts or real suicide are all just as bad and let us know that person is severely unwell.

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[j0rd]

So as soon as someone disagrees with the discussion, it's being rude, disgusting, uneducated and dumb. Seriously can nobody have any free speech on this forum anymore?
Maybe I was a bit blunt saying if you want to do it, just do it. But my opinion stays pretty much the same. Obviously if it's a fad your going through then I hope to god they can get help for it. My best mate when he was about 10 found a guy hanging in a public park. He cut the rope and managed to phone the police and rung an ambulance. He pretty much saved the guy and the guy lived until he tried again and actually succeeded a few months later. My mate had to have counselling for months as he was seeing the guy hanging everywhere he was going. Obviously this guy was intent on doing it as apparently he has attempted many times before this anyway. So why didn't he do it in the house where nobody can be affected by it and make sure he done it properly the first time. Imagine what the people who found him each time went through.

[Catchy]

So as soon as someone disagrees with the discussion, it's being rude, disgusting, uneducated and dumb. Seriously can nobody have any free speech on this forum anymore?
Maybe I was a bit blunt saying if you want to do it, just do it. But my opinion stays pretty much the same. Obviously if it's a fad your going through then I hope to god they can get help for it. My best mate when he was about 10 found a guy hanging in a public park. He cut the rope and managed to phone the police and rung an ambulance. He pretty much saved the guy and the guy lived until he tried again and actually succeeded a few months later. My mate had to have counselling for months as he was seeing the guy hanging everywhere he was going. Obviously this guy was intent on doing it as apparently he has attempted many times before this anyway. So why didn't he do it in the house where nobody can be affected by it and make sure he done it properly the first time. Imagine what the people who found him each time went through.

It's how your comments and other comments came across. Of course everybody is entitled to their own opinion but by reading some of the comments they just seem ignorant. I understand your point about "why can't they do it at home?" but you have to understand, do you think these manic depressant people are actually thinking logically? Do you think they actually care anymore? No because they can't and it's not their fault, it's mental illness. As you've never experienced it I don't think you have the right to come out with "why not do it at home?" do you actually think they're in a sane frame of mind? :S

[FlyingJesus]

Yawn people bringing out the IT'S MY OPINION card when they get told off, further made hilarious by claiming that free speech means no-one can criticise them - think that one through for a while will you

[j0rd]

It's how your comments and other comments came across. Of course everybody is entitled to their own opinion but by reading some of the comments they just seem ignorant. I understand your point about "why can't they do it at home?" but you have to understand, do you think these manic depressant people are actually thinking logically? Do you think they actually care anymore? No because they can't and it's not their fault, it's mental illness. As you've never experienced it I don't think you have the right to come out with "why not do it at home?" do you actually think they're in a sane frame of mind? :S

I've never experienced mental illness or even know anyone who has experienced mental illness so I probably don't really understand anything about the illness. Oh and I can assure you my posts aren't intended to come across as arrogant, but my apologies if they do
Even if these people aren't in the right mind, don't you think it would be respectable to do it where nobody can see and make sure it's done peacefully.

A guy I knew well through school went to Afghanistan with the army. One of his missions was to storm a family home where they suspected Taliban where living. He was the first one to enter and ended up killing an entire family with 4 kids, confirmed later to not be Taliban and actually an innocent family. Finished his tour and a week later hung himself in his base. He was certainly not in the right mind set but still had the decency to do it out of everyone's view. He easily could have gone to the nearest city center and jumped off the tallest building, but he didn't.

Anyways, I think even though someone is in the mind of killing their selves they still have an acknowledgement of what they are doing and where they are doing it. You can make sure you do it where nobody can see and know you've only effected your family, but not the possibility of hundreds of others when doing it in public. Imagine how many people get effected by seeing someone jump of a building and come crashing to the ground - I know I would certainly be effected by it.