What people are underpaid/overpaid?

[Matt]

Fair point, What i should have said were Actors and Actresses from Hollywood, footballers that play for the top teams around the world and singers that are in the itunes charts.

[FlyingJesus]

Fair point, What i should have said were Actors and Actresses from Hollywood, footballers that play for the top teams around the world and singers that are in the itunes charts.

ie people whose paymasters are completely private moneyholders who are free to spend it as they wish

On the note about army folk, they do tend to gamble and overspend a lot (especially the younger ones) simply because they earn a wage that isn't huge but that they simply don't need - if they're away training or in action for half the year then the times they come back are going to be times they want to celebrate still being alive, and they have the means to do so because they aren't paying huge living costs most of the time

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'm quite happy with teachers wages to remain how they are, I think a bonus for how well the children do however wouldn't go down so well, since it would primarily be down to the initial ability of the children, and last years children.

If one person has a class full of students getting A's, and gets them to stay at A's and they get a good bonus, they're screwed next year when they manage to get a full class of students getting F/G/U's and get them up to D's, despite doing a much better job.

Not really, it would be done on how much that class has improved rather than what class you get. So a teacher would recieve the same bonus for improving set 1 by 10% just as they would with set 4.

[oli]

Not really, it would be done on how much that class has improved rather than what class you get. So a teacher would recieve the same bonus for improving set 1 by 10% just as they would with set 4.

But then you wouldn't want to be stuck with a group who get A*s in every exam.

[FlyingJesus]

Not really, it would be done on how much that class has improved rather than what class you get. So a teacher would recieve the same bonus for improving set 1 by 10% just as they would with set 4.

Much easier to make a class who can hardly write their name do 1000% better (ie: by actually answering a question) than it is to get a top set group to do even better performance based bonuses for teachers only helps weaker students and there are already a billion unnecessary programs for them

[Kardan]

Not really, it would be done on how much that class has improved rather than what class you get. So a teacher would recieve the same bonus for improving set 1 by 10% just as they would with set 4.

Then how do you judge how well a class improved? By tests? It's quite easy to give a hard paper to a class when they've had no revision, and then an easy class when they've been told to revise

What if you work in a private school and have a class full of A* students and there is no room for improvement?

[Eoin247]

Also footballers get payed no where near other sportsmen (Tiger Woods being a billionare) and film stars, so cut them some slack.

Well in the UK and Ireland, they are the highest paid sports people. David beckham is the richest sports star ever in the UK. Also Tiger woods has a fortune of around 500 million, and only got there from being the No.1 for many years, so not quite a billionaire and since golf isn't a team sport that's hardly surprising that he gets paid so much by sponsors .

"Footballers account for £1.3bn of the £3.2bn accrued by top earners" according to the Guardian.

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Much easier to make a class who can hardly write their name do 1000% better (ie: by actually answering a question) than it is to get a top set group to do even better performance based bonuses for teachers only helps weaker students and there are already a billion unnecessary programs for them

They could have a logarithmic type scale for improvement. I'm there would be some more method in it than just x upgrades = y cash

[FlyingJesus]

Sounds like a lot of government regulation and bureaucracy which would end up costing more than just raising state teacher's wages tbh lol

[Kardan]

Well in the UK and Ireland, they are the highest paid sports people. David beckham is the richest sports star ever in the UK. Also Tiger woods has a fortune of around 500 million, and only got there from being the No.1 for many years, so not quite a billionaire and since golf isn't a team sport that's hardly surprising that he gets paid so much by sponsors .

"Footballers account for £1.3bn of the £3.2bn accrued by top earners" according to the Guardian.

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They could have a logarithmic type scale for improvement. I'm there would be some more method in it than just x upgrades = y cash

A logarithmic scale does not solve a class that started and remained at A* level, since no improvement was made.

[Eoin247]

A logarithmic scale does not solve a class that started and remained at A* level, since no improvement was made.

i don't know about the UK, but I've never heard of any classes in Ireland where every single person in a class gets the top grade. Maybe it's because we have more grade varieties? We have A1,A2,B1,B2,B3,C1,C2,C3 etc.