James Arthur fired by Simon Cowell

[peteyt]

he doesn't cause arguments for publicity, he causes arguments because people don't like his opinions. most of the time it's the media picking up on anything and everything he says and turns it into a headline. all he wants is to focus on the music without getting this sort of attention and he's struggled with all of the attention. he isn't as bad as he is made out by the media and it's a shame that it's got to this point, artists aren't allowed to voice any sort of opinion without being slated, which is wrong imo

No he causes arguments. The thing is everyone has opinions but that doesn't mean everyone has to state them. He's for example had a go at former X Factor artists, such as Matt Cardle - So what if he doesn't like his music he doesn't have to slate him and other artists especially when he hasn't in my opinion (and others to) made it yet himself. He's a walking publicity nightmare because he can't keep his mouth shut and I've read he's turned a lot of fans off his music. I'd have thought a guy like him who apparently lived rough and on the streets at one point would have appreciated what he has a lot more.

[Cerys]

i don't understand you

i give up

i understand you think he's bad but you can't say he can't sing

(i don't care if u think he's bad)

Ok let me put the last few messages into simple terms
-I think he can't sing
-You think he can sing and you're saying its a fact that he can sing
-You're saying my opinion is wrong because I think he can't sing
-I'm saying that whether he can sing or not is entirely your own opinion and NOT a fact.
-You're too turniplike to accept that it's not a fact

Better???

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[Charz777]

Woah woah your opinions invalid shush.
Cameron can you realise that just because you think he can sing doesn't mean its a fact?
Fair enough if you think he can sing and I respect your view, I just don't think he can so can you respect that too?

Stop forcing your views onto other people. It's not FACT, it's OPINION. There's a strong difference.

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I kind of agree with you here.

I'm wondering if it's to do with standard.

Like, you may think that he can't sing because his singing standard isn't what you'd class as good singing whereas someone else might think he can sing.

I think he is very limited, and while he can sing to some standard, his singing isn't what I'd class as 'good', more 'satisfactory'.

So, I guess, technically, based on the literal term it can be said that he's not a 'good' singer, but I think a lot of it is down to personal opinion.

But I agree with you, just because one person (or any number of people think he is a good singer) it doesn't make it fact.

[Cerys]

I kind of agree with you here.

I'm wondering if it's to do with standard.

Like, you may think that he can't sing because his singing standard isn't what you'd class as good singing whereas someone else might think he can sing.

I think he is very limited, and while he can sing to some standard, his singing isn't what I'd class as 'good', more 'satisfactory'.

So, I guess, technically, based on the literal term it can be said that he's not a 'good' singer, but I think a lot of it is down to personal opinion.

But I agree with you, just because one person (or any number of people think he is a good singer) it doesn't make it fact.

Yes this is exactly what im trying to say, thank you for putting it into better wording




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[Charz777]

Yes this is exactly what im trying to say, thank you for putting it into better wording




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I understood what you were saying, there was no problem with your post I was just agreeing

[Jurv]

No he causes arguments. The thing is everyone has opinions but that doesn't mean everyone has to state them. He's for example had a go at former X Factor artists, such as Matt Cardle - So what if he doesn't like his music he doesn't have to slate him and other artists especially when he hasn't in my opinion (and others to) made it yet himself. He's a walking publicity nightmare because he can't keep his mouth shut and I've read he's turned a lot of fans off his music. I'd have thought a guy like him who apparently lived rough and on the streets at one point would have appreciated what he has a lot more.

yeah i agree with you to some extent, he does need to learn how to keep his mouth shut but i'm more than certain he doesn't cause these arguments for attention. with the argument with matt cardle, they were both as bad as each other. matt cardle slated him numerous times and james obviously returned fire. he obviously hasn't adapted to the change very well but i don't think that makes him a bad person. i just feel sorry guy to be completely honest

Ok let me put the last few messages into simple terms
-I think he can't sing
-You think he can sing and you're saying its a fact that he can sing
-You're saying my opinion is wrong because I think he can't sing
-I'm saying that whether he can sing or not is entirely your own opinion and NOT a fact.
-You're too turniplike to accept that it's not a fact

Better???

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you're making this so much more complicated than it needs to be

it's fact he can sing - how good or bad he is depends on the person. never have i said that it's fact that he is a good singer, all i have said is that he can sing and, to you, he isn't very good. what you're saying is wrong when you say that he can't sing because anyone can sing, it doesn't mean they're good. i honestly don't know why you can't understand what i'm saying?

y'all are crazy

[Cerys]

yeah i agree with you to some extent, he does need to learn how to keep his mouth shut but i'm more than certain he doesn't cause these arguments for attention. with the argument with matt cardle, they were both as bad as each other. matt cardle slated him numerous times and james obviously returned fire. he obviously hasn't adapted to the change very well but i don't think that makes him a bad person. i just feel sorry guy to be completely honest



you're making this so much more complicated than it needs to be

it's fact he can sing - how good or bad he is depends on the person. never have i said that it's fact that he is a good singer, all i have said is that he can sing and, to you, he isn't very good. what you're saying it wrong when you say that he can't sing because anyone can sing, it doesn't mean they're good. i honestly don't know why you can't understand what i'm saying?

y'all are crazy

No fgs CAMUROON JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK HE CAN SING DOESNT MEAN I THINK HE DOES. IT'S OPINION. You're making me want to stab something argh

Yes he can physically sing, but he can't sing in MY OPINION


Oh ok I see where you're getting confused, by 'he can't sing' i'm saying he can't hit the notes/is out of tune. Which yes is the same thing as saying he's a bad singer..because he can't sing.
Do you get me

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[GommeInc]

If that's true then this news is very misleading... He's definitely got talent but no one likes arrogance. He's a jumped up upstart for acting like he does.

[Charz777]

you're making this so much more complicated than it needs to be

it's fact he can sing - how good or bad he is depends on the person. never have i said that it's fact that he is a good singer, all i have said is that he can sing and, to you, he isn't very good. what you're saying is wrong when you say that he can't sing because anyone can sing, it doesn't mean they're good. i honestly don't know why you can't understand what i'm saying?

y'all are crazy

Surely, based on that logic, anyone with the ability to use their vocal cords can sing.

'he can definitely sing, whether you like it or not is something else'

I don't understand what point you're making then... If in fact ANYONE can sing.

If I post a video of myself singing (and I would recommend that you NEVER hear that!) saying 'I can sing...literally' I'm not sure that proves what you want it to.

You want to prove, fact, that he has a talent when it comes to singing... Not that he can physically open his mouth and project sound to a tune.

Which comes back to; it isn't FACT that he is a good singer, it's just fact that he can physically sing...

[Cerys]

Cameron don't continue this discussion/argument while char is involved, she will rip your head off with her correctness



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