guest eo

[Kyle]

Would that not be more of a monthly requirement then? 3 Events per week = 12 a month. I host 2 in 1 week so in one of the remaining 3 weeks I'd need to host 4 in order to make the 12? That would be one of the only ways to monitor staff activity.



Everyone currently meets their minimums unless posted away. Those who weren't meeting the minimums are no longer in the department. The days of pre-booking are very much over, we've known that for a while and it's been brought up in almost every single feedback thread concerning Events! The fact none of those days have more than 10 Events is because of the lack of staff. I wouldn't say anyone in the department is lazy as we got rid of anyone that wasn't pulling their weight! I do check the calendar everyday

Wouldn't need to be so much of a monthly requirement as a simple disclaimer that there is less pressure to meet weekly requirements so long as the hours are made up by the next week at the latest, putting less strain on those who have off weeks where they are either bogged down with real life commitments or just aren't feeling like having to interact with people. It means that people will host because they want to, not because they have to, and event-goers will have a better experience.


~~from phone

[FlyingJesus]

If no-one books events in advance we might as well get rid of the calendar, it's just advertising our lack of events at the moment and a private one in the form of a thread in staff forum can be maintained if there really needs to be something booked in advance. Anyone who isn't staff who wants to keep track of it won't have any difficulty counting to four in CNB anyway

[Chippiewill]

I also agree that there is no incentive whatsoever for the Normal role. Hmm...

You could give normal EOs the right to bump guests from their slots.

[Inseriousity.]

You're merging several ideas from different people into 1 and then basing your argument against them on that, which is a slightly unfair starting place to knock ideas down from. For instance, I think Ryan has clearly said that community EOs would replace guest EOs so there wouldn't really be much confusion at all. Whether you agree with the idea itself is another matter but just pointing that out. If you disagree with an idea, you should really say why in the way it was intended to fit into the system.
Okay, no you haven't, I've just read it wrong although dismissing ideas by lumping them together and brushing them away with 'oh thats confusing' is a bit of a weak argument. Why would it be more confusing? How did you come to that argument?

The lack of events organisers are most likely due to a number of factors rather than just minimums so I don't think it'll make much difference to tinker round with that system too much (although I'll keep arguing that guest EOs are 1 step forward short term, 2 steps back long term):

- Lack of Habbo presence. A more general community issue rather than just events. events, hxl, hxhd, general management and hx members all have a role to play here.
- Lack of furni (room building). Rooms tend to need to look a lot more sophisicated than they used to - lol has anyone seen my event rooms - and it's been mentioned several times and never sorted out properly. Build an events hub where people who aren't that good at room building or don't have the furni to do it good enough can use the events hub.
- Lack of furni (prizes). Shame about the Habbo way changes re: gambling dampening plans for this one but an efficient and effective (the latter seems to be missing in most prize systems suggested so far) prize system to reimburse EOs as much as possible.

There are probably more but it's something to work on, I think.

[Sho]

this reply will cover things that were brought up from my last post, but if i've missed anything let me know.

although i do agree that the guest role has brought in lazy staff, i've changed the system to be able to control their activity better and, like matt said, make sure they're active within their role throughout the month rather than the last few days. i also agree that more effort should be put in to bring in regular staff rather than trying to get people to apply for the guest role and atm i am working on ways to promote the departments to try to bring in regular staff. i won't be scrapping the role right now, although i'm not going to say it'll never happen either as i liked ryan's idea.

although i like the idea of community eos, i don't think they should have their own forum set up for them. i think they can just contact either events management, senior staff or general management either on habbo or the forum and they can add their event to the panel and arrange for an events staff, or senior+ staff to be there during the first 1-2 times they host. it would be just like unofficial events are currently being run, but they'd get more support from habbox as we'll be advertising the events in return too.

if we could sort out a system where we'd give eos more leniency in hosting events but yet make sure they're not in the department and doing nothing, then i'd try it. i know a few managers in the past have scrapped minimums in order to keep the low amount of staff they had since they weren't meeting minimums and they'd end up being fired and they were just losing staff like crazy. i'm gonna give this a think and see what i can sort out.

habbo presense is something i'm currently working on and something i completely agree is lacking.
pre-made rooms is something that matt and i have spoken about and i know people used it when lewis made some. planning on having a generic hosting room and possibly have some wired games set-up too since EOs tend to stick to their comfort zone when hosting because they don't know how to set up wired games. we have some wired tutorials in the forums too to try help this and i'm working on having more made.
i'm trying to think of a way to fund departments but without me being credits myself and giving them out it's hard to think of something since the no ambling policy is now in place.