Some Holocaust Revisionist Videos

[Red]

Over a million people were killed there. Gas was a quick, systematised method; bullets and beatings are not effective ways of killing en masse, which was shown to take its toll on the einsatzgruppen units.

[MightyMagician]

Over a million people were killed there. Gas was a quick, systematised method; bullets and beatings are not effective ways of killing en masse, which was shown to take its toll on the einsatzgruppen units.

Fine, you want a scientific reason as to how zyklon B wasn't used to kill people? Dario Gabbai claimed that the bodies were all black/blue from the inhalation. Cyanide causes a person's skin to be cherry red after exposure, google it if you don't believe me.

[Red]

Bullets, beatings, exhaustion, diseases including typhus, torture prisons (Block of death at Auschwitz 1 for example), experiments, etc.

Not to mention typhus was rampant in Poland and Germany.

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David Cole had no choice but to give the JDL what they wanted, and his recanting was faked. He's still doing the same stuff, and believes The Reinhardt camps killed people. Fact is, Hoess was tortured: Physically and mentally, which is talked about on a large scale on Codoh (http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=974).

As far as the diaries go, David Cole would be more than happy to support you in that discussion, go ahead and search for him on facebook (David Cole Stein). I've answered everything else tbh.

Lmao!! He wrote that and then reinvented himself as david stein. Therefore nothing he writes can be considered credible. No, the fact is there is no evidence to suggest he was tortured into writing his memoirs. Like I said multiple trials with dozens of nazis in various countries, some not even on trial themselves so what reason would they have to lie. Where is this evidence of torture? Show me the evidence that goebbels was lying in his diary. Look at the posen speeches made by himmler. No thanks, I have no intension to read through some crap holocaust deniers work. You can do that and provide it here.

[Alysha]

I'm pretty sure I have a book full of first hand sources about the holocaust somewhere in my parents house, and in it they talk about a silent method, so if these masses of people were taken and shot or beaten, I'm pretty sure that would be loud. What else do you suggest would kill them without brute force being taken into account? (Disease also not taken into account on this.)
Do you really think they would put their ammunition resources and man power into these camps, when those types of resources would be better used on the war front?
Also, Zyklon-B wasn't the only gas used... They used carbon monoxide in the majority of gas chambers and mixed sodium cyanide with acid in a bunch of other places. Is all your evidence based on one type of gas?

[Empired]

Notice the unbarred window, and that it's right next to an actual bathroom? Yeah, that makes sense.

The door was put in for visitors to come and view the site with a safe amount of exit routes.

Your utter refusal to acknowledge the truth that is staring you in the face, especially when it's a truth that is such a delicate topic to many, is astounding. You seem to be missing the point of the horrors of the Holocaust entirely. The point is millions of Jews, Afro-Germans, travelers those deemed "disabled" (mentally or physically), and other minority groups were brutally murdered because of a handful of peoples' narrow-minded hatred of them. For once would you stop trying to be difficult and just show some respect?

[MightyMagician]

I'm pretty sure I have a book full of first hand sources about the holocaust somewhere in my parents house, and in it they talk about a silent method, so if these masses of people were taken and shot or beaten, I'm pretty sure that would be loud. What else do you suggest would kill them without brute force being taken into account? (Disease also not taken into account on this.)
Do you really think they would put their ammunition resources and man power into these camps, when those types of resources would be better used on the war front?
Also, Zyklon-B wasn't the only gas used... They used carbon monoxide in the majority of gas chambers and mixed sodium cyanide with acid in a bunch of other places. Is all your evidence based on one type of gas?

I'm well aware the camps used 2 completely different methods of gas, and the problem with the Aktion Reinhardt camps is that they can't even get to a consensus on what was used in Treblinka. Was it a steam chamber, or a CO room? Doesn't make sense that people involved don't even know what was used. As for diesel exhaust - not enough CO. It's already been tried in a closed car where somebody tried to kill himself by intentionally breathing in the fumes. Sodium Cyanide - this was used to soak the zyklon-b pellets in so the gas would fill the rooms.

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The door was put in for visitors to come and view the site with a safe amount of exit routes.

Your utter refusal to acknowledge the truth that is staring you in the face, especially when it's a truth that is such a delicate topic to many, is astounding. You seem to be missing the point of the horrors of the Holocaust entirely. The point is millions of Jews, Afro-Germans, travelers those deemed "disabled" (mentally or physically), and other minority groups were brutally murdered because of a handful of peoples' narrow-minded hatred of them. For once would you stop trying to be difficult and just show some respect?

I'm not the one who claimed that entire building was in original state. It's staring you right in the face man. Right outside the building is a sign that reads "Bath and Disinfection", In that same building there is a bathroom, and in the murder room there is a window? Seems like the perfect escape to me before people started dying.

[Empired]

I'm well aware the camps used 2 completely different methods of gas, and the problem with the Aktion Reinhardt camps is that they can't even get to a consensus on what was used in Treblinka. Was it a steam chamber, or a CO room? Doesn't make sense that people involved don't even know what was used. As for diesel exhaust - not enough CO. It's already been tried in a closed car where somebody tried to kill himself by intentionally breathing in the fumes. Sodium Cyanide - this was used to soak the zyklon-b pellets in so the gas would fill the rooms.

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I'm not the one who claimed that entire building was in original state. It's staring you right in the face man. Right outside the building is a sign that reads "Bath and Disinfection", In that same building there is a bathroom, and in the murder room there is a window? Seems like the perfect escape to me before people started dying.

What??? Did you even read what I said properly? I didn't claim that entire building was in its original state either? It read Bath and Disinfection because the Nazis wanted people to go in hassle-free. If they put a massive great label outside saying GAS SHOWER OF DEATH- PLEASE WIPE YOUR FEET BEFORE ENTERING people might think to start a rebellion. Instead, they thought "Great! A shower! I've been needing one of these!" and then were promptly gassed.

And I already said there were no original windows in the gas chambers. That door was added for visitors- because the building has been added to, like I said.

[MightyMagician]

What??? Did you even read what I said properly? I didn't claim that entire building was in its original state either? It read Bath and Disinfection because the Nazis wanted people to go in hassle-free. If they put a massive great label outside saying GAS SHOWER OF DEATH- PLEASE WIPE YOUR FEET BEFORE ENTERING people might think to start a rebellion. Instead, they thought "Great! A shower! I've been needing one of these!" and then were promptly gassed.

And I already said there were no original windows in the gas chambers. That door was added for visitors- because the building has been added to, like I said.

You know, I'd be glad to message David Cole on Facebook to get answers for this but I really don't feel like it. You do understand this is the state the Soviets found the gas chamber in right? It's nearly impossible the window was carved into the wall there when the window area has blue stains right near the glass. :S

[Empired]

You know, I'd be glad to message David Cole on Facebook to get answers for this but I really don't feel like it. You do understand this is the state the Soviets found the gas chamber in right? It's nearly impossible the window was carved into the wall there when the window area has blue stains right near the glass. :S

When the Soviets invaded, a lot of death and labour camps were actually quite badly damaged.

Facebook message him please. "I really don't feel like it" sounds like a weak excuse for "I don't want to end up embarrassed".

[MightyMagician]

Lmao!! He wrote that and then reinvented himself as david stein. Therefore nothing he writes can be considered credible. No, the fact is there is no evidence to suggest he was tortured into writing his memoirs. Like I said multiple trials with dozens of nazis in various countries, some not even on trial themselves so what reason would they have to lie. Where is this evidence of torture? Show me the evidence that goebbels was lying in his diary. Look at the posen speeches made by himmler. No thanks, I have no intension to read through some crap holocaust deniers work. You can do that and provide it here.

Don't you worry Red. I'm looking into the posen speeches and the diaries as requested, but it will just take a little longer to compile everything.