Would you like SNQ to be replaced?

[Empired]

I would be against the idea of setting up an automatic game in HxHD. Edit (oops, forgot to justify myself): basically because I have a terrible internet connection as it is and automatic wired games would probably tip my internet over the edge. Also I only think it would be used on the first day and then the novelty would wear out and no one would play.

Hell, I'd be up for organising some mini quizzes and a few games of tag or hide and seek in HxHD as the main argument seems to be you can't find anyone who wants to do that stuff.
But my argument for that is that I don't think HxHD can just be a Help Desk anymore. By no means am I saying scrap the desk (I don't think we should), but it's kinda like when News went to being Articles. It was no longer enough to just write a few hundred words on Habbo news for the department; they needed to bring something new to the dept. And now I think that needs to happen with HxHD.

[Chris]

Nice to see so many opinions so far. I would just like to say that this thread is not about the help desk, it is about SNQ and a possible replacement for it. SNQ could be replaced by an event run by another department entirely, it is not limited in any sort of way.

[dbgtz]

I'd like to see something similar to Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway

I'll just go get Merf and Lerf brb

Yes. I no longer attend SNQ (or I turn up and leave halfway through) because it's boring, it's usually the same people who win every time, and often it's badly hosted if we have trialists attempting to ask questions. Also, that new rule about no one else being allowed to be behind the desk during SNQ is absolutely ridiculous. Does that mean that if people come in during SNQ asking for help then they're just to be ignored? You can try and argue that staff will help them even if they aren't behind the desk but we know that that's ******** unless dbgtz or Absently are around to tell them off if they don't.

I'll just include everything about HxHD events here I think.

• Mini Quizzes. There's so much potential for little events to be run in HxHD but nothing ever seems to happen. To partially replace SNQ I'd like to see mini quizzes run throughout the week with a small prize (maybe something like 5c for one winner OR a piece of furni per question answered right) that wouldn't need to be regular but would need to be frequent. Maybe they wouldn't even need to be prebooked, but if a member of HxHD staff sees the Help Desk is particularly active at one point they just pop an announcement in the CNB and alert the manager. And maybe make it a requirement that each member of staff has to host a mini quiz at least every X (month?). And to stop the excuse "I can't because I don't have any furni/coins", fund one quiz per month per member of staff.
• Mini Events can be run in HxHD as well. The other night @Zealoux; @welshcake; @Ripieno; @lesbon; @Expling; and I were playing tag where we were just running about HxHD tagging each other. Can be played with an item as well and doesn't even require a prize necessarily, but keeps people active in the room instead of just parking themselves on the AFK seats and buggering off to do something else. Afterwards a few of us played Hide and Seek where we can hide in any of the public rooms and one person has to come and find us. You can delete the finder or turn off stalk to stop cheating.
• Ball. Bring back a ball or something similar because that always gets people moving during hours of boredom.
• Truth/dare. You could bring back that spin the bottle thing. That was super popular and I never understood why it isn't used more. Plus it increases forum activity.
• DJ area. It's been suggested time and time again and most people, including management I believe, seem to think it's a good idea each time it's brough up. So where is it?

What kind of events would you suggest replace SNQ? I don't want anything that the Events dept host as it should be something unique.

Mini quizzes like that would probably be abused and would probably have far more complaints than SNQ currently does as questions wouldn't be vetted, so I don't see that ending well. I don't think people would be overly more likely to host random quizzes as they would SNQ either.
Mini events like you just described doesn't sound overly inclusive and wouldn't able to be done without some kind of instant communication (Skype/TS etc.). The last idea seems more suitable for the radio to do (and actually used to be a very common competition).
Ball is generally dependent on the layout. Will consider this for the next layout if it's suitable.
I enjoyed the spin the bottle and as above, will consider it next time.
Anyone who makes a layout can add a DJ area.

"It occurred to me over the last few weeks that SNQ may have become stale..." hahaha oh chris you really do have your eye on the ball don't you? SNQ has been stale for the past couple of years

Should it be replaced? Nope - it should be tweaked! The prizes are stale, there is no accumulation for those who win more than once, and pretty much everybody on the forum has won the forum award. It's very rare for me to talk zebbadi up but I must say that his alteration of snq to include an additional credit prize was one that I think would be welcomed back and would encourage more casual habbo-based hxhd visitors (i.e. not just the forum lurkers complaining here) to participate.

The team aspect is an exciting prospect that works to bring together real life quiz teams on a regular basis that I can see working well for this quiz. Logistical nightmare though considering googling and time limits but properly thought through would be fabulous. I think I recall Mathew having a regular pub quiz back in the day that was very enjoyable?

The questions have already been mentioned, they're bloody horrific. Usually it's honor-branch sat there asking siri what the answers are and garnering the lion's share of the points. Is there any way we can counter this? Can we have more habbo and habbox questions again? It used to be about 1/2 habbo/habbox and 1/2 GK - bring that back. Also - PC? Most modern habbo quizes have questions created based on topics of the players' choosing - Perhaps a couple of PC questions to change things around.

Empired mentioned mini quizzes - Hopeless (immenseman) did lots of these when he was staff and a good few of us found them enjoyable and stimulating. If any staff are struggling to fund small prizes for events like this either do them for fun or ask me for furniture.

To be honest, people seem to complain about VIP and it wouldn't be that unfeasible right now for a credit prize to be introduced. Personally, if it were to be a credit prize I'd like to see it be 1c a question or something along those lines.

I think I was the one who suggested the pub quiz because of Mathews Could just make it multiple choice and first answer by a team goes? I don't know I'm just chatting ideas here.

Should it be replaced? No.

Does it need improving? Yes.

You talk of disagreements, but all the disagreements come down to one thing. Bad hosting. Disagreements on who answered first? Bad hosting. Disagreements on the correct answer? Bad hosting. Disagreements on questions being too easy/hard/fast/slow? Bad hosting.

Do new SNQ hosts still sit in on previous SNQs before they can host? Personally I'm not a fan of half/half Habbo(x)/General Knowledge questions, since you could say it alienates those outside of Habbox and they would never have a chance of winning - but hey, when does someone outside of Habbox ever take part in SNQ anyway?

We also need to get rid of stupid questions that are ambiguous such as 'How many colours are there in the German flag? 2. Gold and Red, since Black isn't a colour' and classic wrong answers that people don't bother to check such as 'Largest desert in the world? Sahara'.

Some questions are ridiculously hard which turns the competition into fastest typer, but likewise, so do ridiculously easy questions. A good balance is needed.

Some sort of cumulative reward system needs setting up where repeat winners get something other than a month of VIP.

I agree that we could do something after the 15/20 minute quiz, basically an 'SNQ event' linked from the help desk. Kick wars? Hide and seek?

Not sure why people would want SNQ to be replaced when it's only taking up 20 minutes of a 7 day week. There's plenty of time to have other regular weekly events.

In all honesty when you talk about bad hosting, it seems more like you're using it as an excuse than it actually being bad hosting. Surprisingly, it's not always the hosts fault when something messes up and the people attending can be pretty bad sometimes that they will just complain about anything.

I don't see the issue with the desert one. If it comes up that much people should have learnt the answer by now and to SNQ shouldn't just be about fitting into what people are comfortable with. I like to throw in a few questions I know people won't know here and there as it means they might actually learn something. Plus it's hard to come up with something most people/everyone will probably know 20 times a week.

I remember last year some time, SNQ hosts would host an event after the quiz but this doesn't tend to happen as there isn't really an area suitable to host anything.

If you're struggling to find staff so much, introduce a guest SNQ host opportunity where anyone can PM whoever with the upcoming weeks they could host, sort out a week, and then they can write/be given their own questions.

At the very least it'll show others how hard the quiz is to host.

But I seriously am all up for it being scrapped entirely and replaced. Or at the very least we need other things to accompany it throughout the week. Simply having a Help Desk is no longer working for Habbox-- we need to combine the Help Desk with a lounge area new AND old users actually want to visit and return to.

Personally, I think having a guest host isn't a particularly bad idea in theory, but it's more a question of is the demand there? I'm not sure it is.

Oh I see what you meant now, sorry. Well, I agree with that but essentially, a lounge is just somewhere to sit and chill so the help desk can still do that. It would mean not ignoring new people, talking to them in a friendly and non-trollish way and gently persuading them to join Habbox. It doesn't work all the time but I think this sort of simple approach is much more effective than flashy events and whatever. Then again, HxHD is also fairly boring most of the time so I think adding a little game or something would be a good idea that's been done before (with fairly minimal interruption).

I don't think there's a problem with getting new members to join Habbox. I know plenty of people sign up and plenty apply for HxHD but then just vanish. So the bigger challenge is getting them to stay which I don't think is really down to HxHD/SNQ since these people tend to either just stop using Habbo or move to other parts of the hotel like militaries. Maybe HxHD should become HxHQ.

I don't think it'd really give off that much lag, or at least i've never experienced any in a ping pong game

I don't remember any Hogwarts lag either, what room was that?

One thing I know is that lag from wired is mainly generated from moving items, ping pong will only have one moving item really

Make a layout with it and post it in the relevant thread

[Inseriousity.]

That used to be the case. I'm not convinced it is anymore but I don't have any stats to confirm or deny these suspicions. Someone will have to go clarify and see. I used to think the 'Habbox is dying' argument was just scaremongering because there are two sides to Habbox: the Habbo (usually younger) and forum (usually older) community are different and the Habbo community usually stayed strong. Now, not so much.

Although it's certainly true there's only so much department managers can do. It really requires a more general approach to the issue.

[someboyrafa]

I think quiz could be held during the week when the helpdesk is often quiet and could make it a bit more lively

[Nick]

can a quiz be held in the day time so i can come or nah

[Danny]

I still think a themed SNQ could happen tbh. People are complaining that questions are the same or too easy or too hard. Aswell as it being the same winners. A themed one, where the 'same winner's' wouldn't always know the answer. I did the Eurovision last year with questions mainly about that, and they weren't all the common questions that I asked. It would keep it fresh I think atleast for a while. Either way people complain so to have a quiz that some people might not be interested in, others will be for a change. There are so many things you could do, Disney, Pokemon, Harry Potter, Lord Of The Rings, Games just to name a few. And there's so many questions in each that you could ask.

And the prize could be different or updated. People don't always want VIP, why not offer coins? Or tokens/rep points a little higher than what you get in events.

Oh and after each SNQ has happened, post the questions that have been asked recently into a thread and ask that people don't use these questions for a while. Could have a link to it in the thread you have with SNQ instructions.

[Kyle]

I still think a themed SNQ could happen tbh. People are complaining that questions are the same or too easy or too hard. Aswell as it being the same winners. A themed one, where the 'same winner's' wouldn't always know the answer. I did the Eurovision last year with questions mainly about that, and they weren't all the common questions that I asked. It would keep it fresh I think atleast for a while. Either way people complain so to have a quiz that some people might not be interested in, others will be for a change. There are so many things you could do, Disney, Pokemon, Harry Potter, Lord Of The Rings, Games just to name a few. And there's so many questions in each that you could ask.

And the prize could be different or updated. People don't always want VIP, why not offer coins? Or tokens/rep points a little higher than what you get in events.

Oh and after each SNQ has happened, post the questions that have been asked recently into a thread and ask that people don't use these questions for a while. Could have a link to it in the thread you have with SNQ instructions.

This was an idea I think you posted in the helpdesk staff thread last year and it sparked some thought about the idea of a widespread themed week throughout all departments. I still think it's a great idea and needs to be picked up and run with by every department in order to make it work. We have the occasional themed 2-3 week event and they always go down a treat. Why can't we have a fortnightly event that lasts a week that all depts are somehow involved in too?

also the hogwarts layout didn't lag because of wired, it lagged because it was hideously big.

[Matt]

can a quiz be held in the day time so i can come or nah

probs nah. It would have to be like either morning time or really late evening in the UK time for us to go.

[welshcake]

I still think a themed SNQ could happen tbh. People are complaining that questions are the same or too easy or too hard. Aswell as it being the same winners. A themed one, where the 'same winner's' wouldn't always know the answer. I did the Eurovision last year with questions mainly about that, and they weren't all the common questions that I asked. It would keep it fresh I think atleast for a while. Either way people complain so to have a quiz that some people might not be interested in, others will be for a change. There are so many things you could do, Disney, Pokemon, Harry Potter, Lord Of The Rings, Games just to name a few. And there's so many questions in each that you could ask.

And the prize could be different or updated. People don't always want VIP, why not offer coins? Or tokens/rep points a little higher than what you get in events.

Oh and after each SNQ has happened, post the questions that have been asked recently into a thread and ask that people don't use these questions for a while. Could have a link to it in the thread you have with SNQ instructions.

I disagree. The last time I watched a themed SNQ it was a massive flop and people complained. (btw this was the first and last SNQ I hosted and I did a film quiz)

Then with the examples you put, I lit would know the answers to 1 of those examples. Not everyone likes the same thing so it's very unfair and I think people would complain more than they do now. Then you have to think of the hosts. What if one person only likes one thing? Like just take me for example. I like what, nothing really. I like Disney things and documentaries and that's pretty much it with me so one week I do a Disney quiz (which you do as an event so really, there is no point in us doing one) then the next week I do a boring as hell documentary quiz. That's me done. Can't do anymore now because I don't know anymore themes and I don't want to host it if I don't know the topic myself because how am I supposed to write questions? Get them from Google? Boring... We do that already.

So I think that's a bad idea.

I agree with the prize thing though.

So basically, I think it should change even though it would be sad. SNQ gets all the regular Habbox people in and that's it. We need something to attract other people and really, quizzes don't attract people (evidence is in a recent event I attended where only Habbox people were there really)