Animal Cruelty

[Michael.]

I'm against Animal Testing and Unlawful Abuse of Animals.
Animal Testing is wrong. If it's going to be used be humans, TEST IT ON HUMANS!

I still think we can eat meat though

[BlackGarden]

I'm against Animal Testing and Unlawful Abuse of Animals.
Animal Testing is wrong. If it's going to be used be humans, TEST IT ON HUMANS!

I still think we can eat meat though

On eating meat:
I recognise that some animals need to kill to eat, and I am not naive enough to think that carnivores should all be vegetarian. I also recognise that in the food chain, it is natural for humans to eat meat. However, I think that seeing humans as the top of the food chain is a bit snobbish frankly. Plenty of animals would eat us. Anyway, the point is we are not simply carnivores. We are omnivores. And unlike many omnivores we have choice. We can live perfectly healthily without meat, without killing, and we have the means to do so.
In short: Live and let live. I don't need to kill to eat so I don't. Some people do need to eat meat (the example that springs to mind is anaemic people) and that's fair enough, but I don't, so I have no reason to.

On animal testing:
I completely agree. Many drugs could be rejected due to failures in animal trials when they are perfectly safe for use on humans (eg cats are allergic to penicillin). Animals and humans are too different for animal testing to be effective and therefore justifiable. It is just cruelty for the sake of cruelty, and has no scientific merit.

[8Marcus8]

to sign a petition agenst these matters of animal cruelty click the link:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=18310

[la-ur-en]

I agree with BlackGarden (sorry lol) there...
If you have to eat meat, then eat it, but i see no point in eating meat when we have plenty of crops growing in our land...
Also i would just like to point out this small thing...
Say theres a little kid eating his dinner, on the plate there is chicken, brocoli, potatoe, sweetcorn...
Now the two things the child would eat first are the potatoes and the sweetcorn, but usually they leave the chicken till last and only eat a small portion, and the rest gets chucked in the bin... I have seen it happen plenty of times when i lived in my house, and my younger brother would complain and moan until my parents finally gave up and chucked it out, thankfully, at this time a was still a vege, so i didn't have to worry about it...
But so much meat gets wasted, even the small little black puddings you get, a poor lamb had to die, just so that you could have a little fry up on a sunday, i was also quite sick at that 'sainsburys' advert not that long ago, the chef asked where they got the pig meat from, then showed us the pig farm, how disgusting is that? I mean, how could it be in someones conscience to actually of seen the little animal you killed, then eat it, knowing that you have just ruined its life...
Animals in the wild, kill naturally, and plus they eat all the meat, we don't, we leave big chunks of meat, and theres parts of the bodys we don't even use...
I also want to point out things like 'fur coats' and 'leather bags' I think these are disgraceful, since when has killing an animal and wearing it been a fashion item? Great, lets just go out and kill a poor innocent cow (or snake) just so that we can look brilliant and only ever use the bag once and then buy another one when we get bored'... Or 'great lets not buy the fake fur jackets, lets buy a real fur jacket, cause nothings better than wearing a poor animal so i can be warm' There is no need for suffering or killing of any sort of creature, and the only thing we can blame is ourselves and the people around us, we are all actually killing ourselves aswell, i would get more into it, but this post seems rather large at the moment, so i think i might post it in the next post...

[BlackGarden]

I agree with BlackMagic there...

Erm... if you were referring to my post... which it looks like you were... it's BlackGarden not BlackMagic

[la-ur-en]

Heh Heh, sorry about that, i must have got confused lol, its changed now lol!!!

[G-flow]

:p moi a vegetarian all my life,w00t, nearly 15 years

[Michael.]

I agree with BlackGarden (sorry lol) there...
If you have to eat meat, then eat it, but i see no point in eating meat when we have plenty of crops growing in our land...
Also i would just like to point out this small thing...
Say theres a little kid eating his dinner, on the plate there is chicken, brocoli, potatoe, sweetcorn...
Now the two things the child would eat first are the potatoes and the sweetcorn, but usually they leave the chicken till last and only eat a small portion, and the rest gets chucked in the bin... I have seen it happen plenty of times when i lived in my house, and my younger brother would complain and moan until my parents finally gave up and chucked it out, thankfully, at this time a was still a vege, so i didn't have to worry about it...
But so much meat gets wasted, even the small little black puddings you get, a poor lamb had to die, just so that you could have a little fry up on a sunday, i was also quite sick at that 'sainsburys' advert not that long ago, the chef asked where they got the pig meat from, then showed us the pig farm, how disgusting is that? I mean, how could it be in someones conscience to actually of seen the little animal you killed, then eat it, knowing that you have just ruined its life...
Animals in the wild, kill naturally, and plus they eat all the meat, we don't, we leave big chunks of meat, and theres parts of the bodys we don't even use...
I also want to point out things like 'fur coats' and 'leather bags' I think these are disgraceful, since when has killing an animal and wearing it been a fashion item? Great, lets just go out and kill a poor innocent cow (or snake) just so that we can look brilliant and only ever use the bag once and then buy another one when we get bored'... Or 'great lets not buy the fake fur jackets, lets buy a real fur jacket, cause nothings better than wearing a poor animal so i can be warm' There is no need for suffering or killing of any sort of creature, and the only thing we can blame is ourselves and the people around us, we are all actually killing ourselves aswell, i would get more into it, but this post seems rather large at the moment, so i think i might post it in the next post...

Lauren, Humans are Omnivores.
I eat both meat & vegetables. I could happily go a few days without eating meat. But, eating meat is what man has done from the start of time.
I'm against all this "Factory farming" thing, my mum only buys free range.

What about rabbits?
My dad's a hunter and he kills a few rabbits every month, in pest control. Did you know Lauren, that rabbits are eating your vegetables? I know you're saying now 'That's really wrong!' but, the farmers would get the Ministry Of Agriculture in and gas all the rabbits in a 1 mile radius. At least with hunters, it's a bit "Hit & Miss".

Sainsbury's Advert?
It's a way of life. Farmers have to do that for money.

There are some qualities in meat which you can't get from vegetables. And of course we're not of the food chain! Some animals would love to have an arm and a leg of Us. There is no alternative for the qualities in meat, like there is for fur.

[SoraSafe]

If you think that's bad you should see how and why they kill seals in Canada.

[G-flow]

How do they kill seals in canada :s,