ouija boards..

[summer]

my mates wanted to try one. i would try it, but mainly just out of curiosity to see whether they rly work.

[Mentor]

Ouija boards are entirely real. I have done several in a Paranormal Investigations premises and all have worked successfully, and yes we were blindfolded and the words were spelt correctly.

You have done investigations? now how real were these investigations? did they work on the princibles of the scientific method, or did you just throw a bunch of people in a room, and decided afterwards what counted as a success and failure?
How exsactly do you do an exsperment on the medium of a human anyhow? where hardly the easyest subject to work of, phycologists have been working for 100s of years on it, none have come close to actaly being able to make valid prediction, indervidual differences are the constant obstical. Im doubtful this taken in to account how much validty can be applued to your "investigations"

The earliest records of Ouija boards go all the way back to the 1600's in Europe, Britain and particularly Africa but were recently re-introduced into Society in the 1900's. People believed it to be a 'Third eye into the gateway of the second life' and some people were accused of Witchcraft because of it during the 1600's particularly in Britain and Europe In Africa they were called Voodoo's and were also known for their well known 'Voodoo dolls'.

Ansestorworship has been around for 1000s of years, i dont see how this summery of the history can add to take away from claims realteing to validty of what they show?

If you have done Ouija boards that perhaps haven't worked, or words haven't been spelt correctly, there are a possibility of two explinations to link the occurrance:

1. Others around you were being immature and deliberately moving the Glass to cause words to be spelt incorrectly, or perhaps the Spirit was un-educated depending what era they came from, as you may know Education was very limited throughout the 1600's-1700's, the revolution boomed in the 1800's with the recent Industrial Revolution.

Wired how they all seem to speak your language though? out of all the people in the world, and that over the 10's of 1000s of years humans have been around, they all seem to be able to use an alphabetic language ?

2. There was no Spirit present in the area that you were, if there is a lot of negative energy then spirits may choose to stay away, just like you and I they are afraid of unwell-being and harmful natures. This is completely natural and you must remember that they were also living beings at one point just like you and I.

So how do you know this about spirts? did they tell you threw the board or is this just unfounded speculation ?

Plus takeing a duelist definition of a spirt/sole/mind, how can somthing lacking extention be assinged a termpo-spacal location at all?

Who is to say that Spirits do not exist?

Near all of modern science ?

When you pass over, your heart stops beating, but you aren't your heart. You aren't even your body, yes you may own those things but you are your Spirit. If there were no Spirits, we may as well be statues somewhere in a field, because there would be nothing there to comply with the body.

Well descartes couldn't establish duelism, i doubt you can, unless you actualy have a vaieg understanding of what mind is, or the theorys surrounding it in a co-hirent mannor, and then have an answer to the problem of mind body interaction, sole separability (hard with no exstention) or even maybe establish any film grounding for the claim a mind/sole/spirt exist at all? after all personally i believe functionalism is quite easly capable of accounting for any concept of self, consciousness, maybe with a bit of epi-phemonaliosm thrown in, and a stolen propety duelest concept of 2 level perseption, just for good measure.
If you dont know what im talking about even at this basic pursudo level, your gona need to do a bit of reading before establishing you spirt theroy, the "it is becuse i say it is arument" has little validty.

When you pass over, your spirit is released from your physical body, you can't go out and make or buy a new one so you wander around in your spiritual nature, your only way of contact is through a Ouija Board unless you have built up enough risidual energy to show a spectural orb of yourself, often appearing in the colour of the Aura that the spirit is feeling at the present time.

The eletromagnetic feiled of a body is becuse most are nervous system is litraly eletric, are cells all contain tiny motors powerd by oxigen. Its not proof of your ghoasts in the machine. My light has one to, its not gona become a spirt when the bulb goes.
Plus after 10's of 1000s of years why is it only in the last 1000 or so we discover how to contact em ?

You must remember that the reason you put your finger-tips on the glass is so the spirit can use your energy to move the glass, because they are thin as air, thus being incredibly weak. They need to use your energy to push the glass to each destination.

Air has no width, its not thin or fat, its a gas, stop misassiging propertys. Also your whole spirt concept has been destroyed up above.

So what is to say this isn't real?

1) Duelism doesnt work
2) multiple flaws in the concepts behind it
3) fact it has many other far more likely explinations.

How do we have the right to say it isn't real?

Freedom of speach?

Because it has, and will continue to be successful over periods and possibly centuries to come, don't under-estimate the power of man, because it's the strongest power in the universe.

1) man isnt the strongest power in the universe, in fact that makes no sence at all?
2) no it hasnt, no proof or evidence or real veridical exspernce has ever been documented, a drunk with pink eliphence has about as much evidance to support the eliphants as you do this.

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[Jazza]

I think what Bliss said is copied and pasted from somewhere and I will find it. lol

[Sevenoaks]

Nope, Actually she wrote it out.

I think some of you people don't even know what a ouija board is. Who was it who said its not Jamanji again?

Well I say this... ITS NOT FLIPPING MONOPOLY!

[Bef]

We used to do them all the time when we were kids. People used to move the glass sometimes but there was times that wer totally freaky.
We used to use scrabble letters and put them in a circle all scrambeld up and then put a glass in the middle and all touch it.
I got proper spooked out once because the "ghost" told me my full name which nobody actually knows (It's really long and i don't use alot of it)
Which was kinda un explainable.
Ther a good laugh but dont take them too seriously.

[Mentor]

Nope, Actually she wrote it out.

I think some of you people don't even know what a ouija board is. Who was it who said its not Jamanji again?

Well I say this... ITS NOT FLIPPING MONOPOLY!

Its also not a board game? o.0 whats your point.

[CustomHabbo]

In the instructions i think it says one player moves it with their fingers very slowly?

well idk bout it i was scared of it so i put it outside wen i was little haha

[FlyingJesus]

The earliest records of Ouija boards go all the way back to the 1600's in Europe, Britain and particularly Africa but were recently re-introduced into Society in the 1900's.

That's really not that far through history, and could quite easily have been made up then as anyone could make up a theory right now.

2. There was no Spirit present in the area that you were, if there is a lot of negative energy then spirits may choose to stay away, just like you and I they are afraid of unwell-being and harmful natures. This is completely natural and you must remember that they were also living beings at one point just like you and I.

As Mentor said, if something has no body then how can it encompass a certain area?

When you pass over, your heart stops beating, but you aren't your heart. You aren't even your body, yes you may own those things but you are your Spirit. If there were no Spirits, we may as well be statues somewhere in a field, because there would be nothing there to comply with the body.

I'm pretty sure it's electrical signals and such that controls everything within us. Also note that things can move without "spirits", unless you believe that rocks and minerals have spirits too.

When you pass over, your spirit is released from your physical body, you can't go out and make or buy a new one so you wander around in your spiritual nature, your only way of contact is through a Ouija Board unless you have built up enough risidual energy to show a spectural orb of yourself, often appearing in the colour of the Aura that the spirit is feeling at the present time. You must remember that the reason you put your finger-tips on the glass is so the spirit can use your energy to move the glass, because they are thin as air, thus being incredibly weak. They need to use your energy to push the glass to each destination.

Air does have a thickness (sorry Mentor) as it's made up of various gases, made of various atoms etc which have small masses and whatnot. However, if spirits were this sort of thickness, then going by how many trillions of people must have died and released spirits, I'm sure they'd be able to have a right laugh by amassing their forces and smashing stuff up or something. Your argument here is heavily flawed.

So what is to say this isn't real? How do we have the right to say it isn't real? Because it has, and will continue to be successful over periods and possibly centuries to come, don't under-estimate the power of man, because it's the strongest power in the universe.

If you believe in spirits you in effect must believe in some sort of afterlife, and most likely a god of some sort.. surely that being would be more powerful than a human?

[Blissa]

By investigations I mean a group of highly intelligent individuals including members of parliament, scientists, a priest, and others. How else would you explain the glass moving and every word being spelt to the correct dictionary status? This was at an extremely large house out in the middle of the countryside where I live which used to be the home of several witches who were burnt in my back garden, so no it wasn't all jolly and yes alot of bad things did happen during the time including Paintings being removed from the walls, the table being thrown across the room and more events which I will not be mentioning on a public forum. But an excorcism was later needed. Please do not insult my intelligence by making claims of fraudery and unrealistic statements.

I never said they all speak in alphabetical language, if you read my first post correctly then you would have noticed I said alot of spirits are uneducated depending on the era they are from and the level of their education. I also haven't spoke to 10's of 1000's of spirits.

No they did not 'tell me through the board' as you so put it, I have studied this for many years and know exactly what I am talking about, you may be a scientist, or you talk like one at least in most words which I, and many other members of this forum probably can't understand. I have also had to draw in frightened spirits that are trapped in a form of risidual energy.

I generally suggest you learn how to spell the simplest of words before making a dictatorship to me. All of the investigations that have taken place are entirely proffessional and are not fraudulent. Your theory of 'A rumble in the ground from a soccer pitch to move the glass' is completely invalid and ridiculous. This is completely impossible.

It is only in the last few hundred years that we have learnt to contact them because that is when Education was put into prospects, cavemen were not educated, therefore they could not commit to things such as Ouija boards, therefore this is also why they will never contact someone through a Ouija board, so that theory of yours is also unjustified and completely ridiculous. We also are not lightbulbs, it's pathetic to make a claim of justifications between a Lightbulb and a Human organism.

Air has a high level of spectroversy in it, Air can be thin when you reach levels of High altitude such as on Mountain peaks hence the reasons for altitude sickness. Air can also be heavy stopping people from breathing sufficiently, such as deep underground and underwater, hence the reason for air canisters needed to keep the person alive for more than 5 minutes.

I'm sorry dear, but I think you'll find that my explination is completely likely, we are Spirits, and no Modern Science did not say that this is not real, infact they said it's an extremely high possibility, I have made statements of justification in my texts as you will see if you read them PROPERLY rather than SEMI-SKIMMING them with your eyes. I'm sorry but if you want to be a scientist I think you had better go back to your drawing board and re-think your future out, seriously hard.

Man is the strongest power in the Universe, and I summence to wonder why the hell you keep making references to things like Lightbulbs and Pink Elephants in referance to the Human life-form and spiritual energy, it's quite pathetic really.

[Bef]

I reckon there is some form of afterlife, i duno if theres ghosts as i have never had a ghost walk up to me and be like
"Hi bef im a ghost"
with ouija boards id say half the time its people moving the glass to freak out there friends and maybe half the time it does work. I dont know
Every time i tried it by myself nothing moved unless i was messing about.