UK Market Decline

[alexxxxx]

I think Habbo could fix this problem. Simple, release the current recolour's as normal furni. = more people buying. Then, when they release rares say, 4 times a year = more demand = more people buying.

Habbo don't give two craps about values, they only care about making money. More Rares = More Money.

[Yum999]

All in all, why do people buy rares?

If we're honest, we do it to show off. For instance, if you had a Throne and say a few Mochas and Blue Inflatable Chairs... and your throwing a party, your going to make sure the Throne is there, aren't you?

People want profit to buy more expensive things, expensive things are a sign of wealth. Now, we have an increasingly "poor" Habbo population, who survive on giveaways and donations. They don't tend to show off their wealth.

Overall, less people are trading the expensive rares. If there are no people wanting to buy your throne (and this is obviously a long way off, but it's happening to some rares), your going to drop the price to sell it. That's the problem I think we have. The problem lies in less people buying credits, which snowballs into less people buying rares and super rares, coupled with more rich Habbos leaving and keeping their rares locked away. This can mean two things.

1) Less Super Rares to trade, pushing their values up.
2) Less Super Rare Traders, keeping the value down.

Overall, this process has kept the market stable for a while. Fewer traders means less people willing to pay the price, but lower availabilty pushes the value up. I think the market is starting to feel the pinch.

A prime example is =Ice-T= (owner of the Throne Pyramid). He had hundreds of thrones, but has now disappeared. This means there is one less rich dealer willing to pay the price, but less thrones, which means the value goes up.

That's my theory, anyway. Probably wrong.

[tinyjosh01]

Yes were did that throne pyramid go?

My mate said he always sees hc sofas and throne sofa pyramids why not thrones?

I said search =Ice-T= and there is one.

He couldn't find and neither could I.

The prices of credits are to expensive to spend so I think that is why not as many people buy credits.If people buy credits then instead of buying hc for 30credits and getting 1 hc sofa they would buy 3 10 credit coins to get 3 hc sofas.

The rares that Sulake release now is to make money because every rare I personally have seen (Only about 5 of them) The first was the new years rocket, basically the black one but different colour and name?, one was the aqua icm, recolour of the gold icm, The green birdbath, re-release and then the petal patch and moon patch, re-release and then finally a NEW rare!

[Evolution]

It seems the UK Rares Market is slumping at the moment when it should be strong and rising.

I think this is because of the UK Hotels declining visitor numbers so there are more things avalible to 6,000 people rather than 13,000 people.

Anyone else agree?

Hammocks and Holiday Romances are struggling to sell for 3 CS each and Aloe Vera's have dropped along with most other summer rares.

I think it's because of the lack of build up to rares these days. Ever since last year after certain happenings, there has been absolutely no build up with a personal touch to build up anticipation to these rares, it's always now hotel alert-news post, not do quest x to find the new rare or anything.

Rares such as Majestics are even falling which I didn't expect them to a month or two ago, they don't fetch 3 CS

Also New HC Furni has dropped so much because there isn't that much demand for them because there are less people, it was clear they were going to drop but i'm suprised at the rate the HC Furni is dropping.

Eid Posters also don't seem to be doing the usual 3 CS - 8 CS pattern anymore.

I think the market it heading for a collapse in both Normals and Supers very soon, it may be slow but it could happen very quickly also.

It's already starting to fall, only thing that cna stop it is more users and that doesn't look likely for the UK Hotel at the moment.

Agreed, it seems once a super drops it doesn't pick up again, it just drops.

Thrones are probably the best at the moment, BUT if people want to take a gamble they COULD buy all old rares and cheap supers now and just hope that UK numbers pick up and they'll make a lot - But it seems unlikely.

I think the best Habbo Markets to invest in at the moment are Canada, USA and SG purely for their growing popularity.

Wrong. As an international hotel visitor (heh...fansite) I think you'll find ALL Habbo's have suffered greatly in terms of members. UK being the most notable, granted. Habbo UK has gone from a 14,000 peak (even sometimes 15,000) to a 6,400 peak time - even on weekends.

Habbo SG struggles to get 800 people online at peaktimes, even on weekends.
Habbo AU no longer is in the 2-3,000 margin, it's 1,800.
Habbo CA doesn't even get 3,000 people, not even 2,000 people often. It gets about 1,700.
Habbo US as the commercial hotel should have been growing - it hasn't. It's gone from a 10,000 peak time to a 7,000 peak time - on weekends.

This goes for every other hotel too.

at the person who mentioned the new stuff that came out this year - all of that is recolours. Road Barriers, Traffic Lights, Bubble Chairs, Sleeping Bags, new iced/area/mode are all recoloured and more will come out. Road stuff & bubble chairs are not even rare - they're meant to be 'accessories' (hence the 6-10 credit pricing). Solariums are iced furni, not rare.

I think people are wisening up where it comes to the recolour rubbish. When it comes to recolours. Recolours are fine, people liked the parasol/birdbath era of recolours - Sulake went over the top in creating 10 recolours for every v7 rare (some which look almost identical to other pieces) and then continued to go over the top when they made all these future furnitures with recolours. Traffic Lights have about 6 colours, Road Barriers = 3 colours, Bubble Chairs = 8 colours, Area/Mode/Iced = 8 colours, Glass = 8 colours and the list goes on...

[Flabbyman]

I think it's because of the lack of build up to rares these days. Ever since last year after certain happenings, there has been absolutely no build up with a personal touch to build up anticipation to these rares, it's always now hotel alert-news post, not do quest x to find the new rare or anything.





Wrong. As an international hotel visitor (heh...fansite) I think you'll find ALL Habbo's have suffered greatly in terms of members. UK being the most notable, granted. Habbo UK has gone from a 14,000 peak (even sometimes 15,000) to a 6,400 peak time - even on weekends.

Habbo SG struggles to get 800 people online at peaktimes, even on weekends.
Habbo AU no longer is in the 2-3,000 margin, it's 1,800.
Habbo CA doesn't even get 3,000 people, not even 2,000 people often. It gets about 1,700.
Habbo US as the commercial hotel should have been growing - it hasn't. It's gone from a 10,000 peak time to a 7,000 peak time - on weekends.

This goes for every other hotel too.

at the person who mentioned the new stuff that came out this year - all of that is recolours. Road Barriers, Traffic Lights, Bubble Chairs, Sleeping Bags, new iced/area/mode are all recoloured and more will come out. Road stuff & bubble chairs are not even rare - they're meant to be 'accessories' (hence the 6-10 credit pricing). Solariums are iced furni, not rare.

I think people are wisening up where it comes to the recolour rubbish. When it comes to recolours. Recolours are fine, people liked the parasol/birdbath era of recolours - Sulake went over the top in creating 10 recolours for every v7 rare (some which look almost identical to other pieces) and then continued to go over the top when they made all these future furnitures with recolours. Traffic Lights have about 6 colours, Road Barriers = 3 colours, Bubble Chairs = 8 colours, Area/Mode/Iced = 8 colours, Glass = 8 colours and the list goes on...

;o so no wonder Sulake are rushing versions, it seems like all the Hotels are in meltdown in visitor numbers.

I miss having 14,000 people online

[Hazza]

;o so no wonder Sulake are rushing versions, it seems like all the Hotels are in meltdown in visitor numbers.

I miss having 14,000 people online

Yeah ;o

There obviously rushes versions to bring more money in. I understand now! It took us 6 months to get V11 after V9 and only 2-3 months to get V12 after V11. Numbers have decreased in the last year, I think its better having more people online, Habbo becomes more fun for some reason.

[Flabbyman]

Anyway it looks like our Normals Market is already in meltdown and the super one is starting to get worse.

[Evolution]

Yeah ;o

There obviously rushes versions to bring more money in. I understand now! It took us 6 months to get V11 after V9 and only 2-3 months to get V12 after V11. Numbers have decreased in the last year, I think its better having more people online, Habbo becomes more fun for some reason.

Exactly

They've noticed their losing their visitors which equally results in losing profit.

It's possibly the reason why hotels such as CA&US charge more for furni such as glass, recoloured mode/area/iced, gothic (generically 1 credit more than every other hotel)

They even went as far as charging 25 credits for an Iced Roller door.

It's why there's a lot more original furni that doesn't come with recolours, the habbowood stuff, japanese stuff etc.

Romantique is a new furni line that again comes in recolours - lets hope its not as outrageously prices as gothic (which they also expect people to pay the same amount of credits as the red set for the other 6 colours of it)

[Elkaa]

Anyway it looks like our Normals Market is already in meltdown and the super one is starting to get worse.

Well, I just jumped out of the Super Market yesterday. Looking at the trades going on, it will be a matter of days before the Dino drops below 3 thrones.

@ Andy - Sulake are too slow at keeping up with the competition. Music has been suggested on the hotel since day one. It's take six years... Six years too long.

[le harry]

Let's face it, Habbo is dieing. There are so many rares in the hotel now, it's not even significant owning one. I remember the days where I would celebrate after getting a HC Sofa. Now I get 20 for free and don't give a toss.

The super rare trades are controlling everything, people like Telux & Slure + more own all the super rares, they are becoming less popular.

It's partly, well mostly the staff's fault. The hotel is so damn boring now, they hold zilch events, its all just a massive waste of time.