Mac VS Windows - [Closes 13/08/07]

[HotelUser]

You judge the OS by the mouse the computer comes with. They ship the mouse because it looks good with the computer and some people like it. You can always get a different mouse. Most PCs come with stock mice which you upgrade to one you like more if you are into that stuff.

I mentioned you could probably get a new mouse and it says MAC vs not OSX vs.

Well Macs are actually more compatible with software than PCs.
For over a year Macs have been able to run XP (or vista) and OSX.

Because there is an OS emulator does not make it more compatible, it's another waste of time. You would have to make the simulated computer less powerful than the machine and obtain a Windows operating system. Also ever hear of Virtual PC, VMware that simulate OSes for windows? Boches is one you can install on windows and run Mac aswell.

OSX has a lot of pro software like final cut and aperture. In games they are lacking but you can always switch to XP for games on a Mac

Loading the virtual operating system to run a game, waste of time.

you say white is not a user friendly color?

Macs come in black and silver too.

And Vista looks like OSX

I dislike the user interface and the look of Mac,s it looks like they didn't want them to look nice so they made it all one color.

You dont like Macs because the X is in the other corner?

I could say I dont like PCs because the X is in the wrong corner.

That is the second worst points of this thread.

The worst point of this thread is the one mouse click thing.

Clearly stating that you dont know anything about macs in the past few years.

The mouse that comes with macs has a right click. It actually has 4 buttons and a scroll ball.

An ugly scroll bar.

It just is engineered so nicely that it doesn't look like it has a bunch of random buttons. It is plain and simple looking like most apple designs.

Yes it is plain, too plain.

I am not going to go further into this argument because the only people who can actually argue are the ones who know a little about both systems.

And anyone saying that macs dont have right click or that they cant run as much software isn't educated in the computer field enough to be insightful.

I've used both Operating Systems recently, they can not run as much good software. Fact.

I suggest anyone looking in this thread for a good fair comparison to google it.

Or go to an Apple store and mess around then go to a Dell store (or PC store) and see how you like them.

Then make a decision.

I think the whole Mac vs. Windows debate is over now. Nobody seems to care any more. When Vista first came out, yeah, people were bashing the two companys left right and centre, but it's sort of old now.

- Sean

According to Steve Jobs those stupid adds on tv which makes people dislike Macs is for "fun" not bashfull to Windows at all?

Hmm.. Doubt that. I knew who Bill Gates was when I was 4 years old. I just learned who Steve Jobs was a year ago.

I said I liked a Mac?! I said they're over glorified for what they are basically, Apple suggest they're great through their adverts by making up crap and posting mindless information they must of made up on the spot, which is false advertising. They suggest all laptops are made by Windows, when they're not. Windows is the OS, not a manufacturer. And they suggest all laptops hit the ground when the cable is pulled which is very untrue, most fall out, have done for years. Windows don't need to run Apple programs (other than iTunes) because Windows don't make their own software, other companies do and Apple probably won't allow PCs to run their programs, because they're so anti-competitive. Besides, you can buy or download a better program than anything in the iLife range and it would cost just a bit more than regular Mac, unless you go for Adobe CS2, then you could be naughty and go illegal, which isn't really considered bad by people anymore, other than the company it comes from.

Windows is owned by Microsoft (obvously) which makes
Microsoft Plus
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Microsoft Office
Microsoft Rise Of Nations
Microsoft Zoo Tycoon
Need I keep going?

Even if they did get others to make that there name is on it.

Its clear that apple dont think theyre great, why would they enable their machines to run windows (ever tried adding OS X to a windows PC? - dont). The wealth of software that apple created solely for macs helps too... apple know what theyre doing a lot better than a 3rd party ever would, as is the case with mac. GommieInc, you dont even make sense.. people only like them because theyre different.. With the domination of windows, people must like them because their better than windows, so why are you defending then not then defending then not, make your mind up... for once. The ad campaign is a tongue in cheek from apple to microsoft, they use reasons that show mac is more user friendly, they run windows programs.. Again, do windows run mac programs?

You could argue that apple only do this because windows is more popular, if this was the case, then why do apple even make the mac; windows is more popular? The fact is, they dont begrudge their users for liking the competition, they just show its generally not a good idea to.

You can run OSX on Windows with Boches though Microsoft does not support it at all.

[BL!NKEY]

I mentioned you could probably get a new mouse and it says MAC vs not OSX vs.

So this debate is comparing Mac computers to Windows which is just an OS

Because there is an OS emulator does not make it more compatible, it's another waste of time.

It is not an emulator. You can use bootcamp to actually boot up in XP or Vista. Macs run on intel chips now.

It is the same as running XP or Vista on your dell.

If it is too much of a waste of time to re-boot you can buy parallels which lets you use both OSX and XP or Vista programs without booting.

You would have to make the simulated computer less powerful than the machine and obtain a Windows operating system. Also ever hear of Virtual PC, VMware that simulate OSes for windows?

Yes those are emulators. That was back in the Power PC days. They do not use those on the intel macs. You actually are running XP or Vista.

Boches is one you can install on windows and run Mac aswell.Loading the virtual operating system to run a game, waste of time.

Once again you can use parallels and not have to "waste time" booting up

I

dislike the user interface and the look of Mac,s it looks like they didn't want them to look nice so they made it all one color.An ugly scroll bar.Yes it is plain, too plain.

If your personal preference isn't the clean look of Apple then that is your choice. I tend to like clean simple looking stuff so it appeals to me and a lot of other people. One of the reasons the iPod is so successful.

I've used both Operating Systems recently, they can not run as much good software. Fact.

Tell me a piece of software that you can run on Windows that you cannot on a Mac. (remember Macs can run XP or Vista)

According to Steve Jobs those stupid adds on tv which makes people dislike Macs is for "fun" not bashfull to Windows at all?

We are discussing computers here not advertising strategies.

Hmm.. Doubt that. I knew who Bill Gates was when I was 4 years old. I just learned who Steve Jobs was a year ago.

I knew Bill Gates before Steve Jobs too. He is or was the richest man in the world. But I bet more people know Steve Jobs then know the head of Dell or HP which sell more computers.

Windows is owned by Microsoft (obvously) which makes
Microsoft Plus
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Microsoft Office
Microsoft Rise Of Nations
Microsoft Zoo Tycoon
Need I keep going?

Even if they did get others to make that there name is on it.

And you can still run those programs on Macs.

You can run OSX on Windows with Boches though Microsoft does not support it at all.

Not legally. Your average PC user is not going to hack it to run OS X.

Your average Mac user might want to install Boot Camp to easily and legally run XP to play some of those super cool Microsoft games.

[HotelUser]

It is not an emulator. You can use bootcamp to actually boot up in XP or Vista. Macs run on intel chips now.

Some people still use macs with no intel processor.

Once again you can use parallels and not have to "waste time" booting up

Tell me a piece of software that you can run on Windows that you cannot on a Mac. (remember Macs can run XP or Vista)

Remember I already knew that. OSX can NOT run this software, OSX can simulate windows but then windows runs the software not OSX. Just because you can simulate a windows computer does not oh so suddenly let OSX run everything. Windows is still doing it.

We are discussing computers here not advertising strategies.

It has something to do with Windows and Macs, maybe you've never seen them?

I knew Bill Gates before Steve Jobs too. He is or was the richest man in the world. But I bet more people know Steve Jobs then know the head of Dell or HP which sell more computers.

I knew Gates because of Microsoft before I knew him for his richness.

And you can still run those programs on Macs.

Yeah for some there may be a Mac edition such as office, but if you use an emulator or install Windows it is running on Windows not OSX.

Not legally. Your average PC user is not going to hack it to run OS X.

Yes legally and it's not hacking you install boches and it works.

Your average Mac user might want to install Boot Camp to easily and legally run XP to play some of those super cool Microsoft games.

Yes but if you switch to Windows the games run on Windows not OSX.

Once again you can use parallels and not have to "waste time" booting up

You run boches on windows, do you think paras is the only simulator that lets you pause and save the state because it is not. Microsoft Virtual PC 2007(freeware) allows you to do all of this and share files by draging from one OS to another.


In the end you can not run some things on OSX without having to install Windows. These things are running on Windows really not OSX. Though they are using the simulated processor and other simulated things Windows is the operating system you simulate.

If the Mac vs Windows is the true debate and it's not over OSX vs Windows than you are running Windows(one side of the debate) on a Mac(the other side of the debate) so Macs would run windows software but windows would be running it. A Tie perhaps? Maybe though using Windows is much more easy.

[Luckyrare]

I am dont even going to talk about viruses/who had the ideas first...

Mac, runs quicker in my eyes on much lower spec. PC, has more games/choice of software... Mac has a better interface. Vista is great, OSX is better.

Mac wins my vote.

[BL!NKEY]

Some people still use macs with no intel processo.

True but in this debate we are talking about the recent Macs and Windows. I wouldn't discount an advantage that Vista has because some Windows users do not have Vista.

Remember I already knew that. OSX can NOT run this software, OSX can simulate windows but then windows runs the software not OSX. Just because you can simulate a windows computer does not oh so suddenly let OSX run everything. Windows is still doing it

But you even clarified that the debate was Macs vs Windows so we are not talking about OSX only. While OSX can not RUN Windows, Macs can. They do not emulate.

Here is a graph representing what Macs can do vs what Windows can do


( (Windows) Macs)

everything you can do on Windows you can do on Macs. Not everything you can do on Windows you can do on a Mac.

Yeah for some there may be a Mac edition such as office, but if you use an emulator or install Windows it is running on Windows not OSX

But the debate is not about OSX. The Mac is still running the windows program.

.Yes legally and it's not hacking you install boches and it works.

Wrong. It is illegal to run OSX on a non apple computer.

Yes but if you switch to Windows the games run on Windows not OSX.

Once again. Of corse it is running Windows. The Mac is not emulating either.

In the end you can not run some things on OSX without having to install Windows. These things are running on Windows really not OSX. Though they are using the simulated processor and other simulated things Windows is the operating system you simulate

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It is Macs vs Windows not OSX vs Windows.

If there was a different debate of OSX vs Windows then I would have different points.

If the Mac vs Windows is the true debate and it's not over OSX vs Windows than you are running Windows(one side of the debate) on a Mac(the other side of the debate) so Macs would run windows software but windows would be running it. A Tie perhaps? Maybe though using Windows is much more easy.

I will show my graph again

( (Windows) Macs)

Macs win with the amount of stuff they can do.

An unfair debate from the beginning because you are comparing a Computer to an operating system.

[HotelUser]

True but in this debate we are talking about the recent Macs and Windows. I wouldn't discount an advantage that Vista has because some Windows users do not have Vista.



But you even clarified that the debate was Macs vs Windows so we are not talking about OSX only. While OSX can not RUN Windows, Macs can. They do not emulate.

Here is a graph representing what Macs can do vs what Windows can do


( (Windows) Macs)

everything you can do on Windows you can do on Macs. Not everything you can do on Windows you can do on a Mac.




But the debate is not about OSX. The Mac is still running the windows program.



Wrong. It is illegal to run OSX on a non apple computer.




Once again. Of corse it is running Windows. The Mac is not emulating either.

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It is Macs vs Windows not OSX vs Windows.

If there was a different debate of OSX vs Windows then I would have different points.




I will show my graph again

( (Windows) Macs)

Macs win with the amount of stuff they can do.

An unfair debate from the beginning because you are comparing a Computer to an operating system.

No. Illegal or not Illegal you can still run OS X on windows...

Windows can run OSX
Mac can run Windows.

You don't see it often because it is crap to want to run OSX on windows. Useless.

I'll put it like this.
Even though Mac is running Windows this debate is Mac VS Windows and Windows is the Operating System running these programs, though it is on a Mac computer Windows is running it and windows is the vs in the debate. So It has to win because by saying Mac runs Windows and Windows is part of the debate it wins, I hope you get it? Lol..

[BL!NKEY]

No. Illegal or not Illegal you can still run OS X on windows...

Windows can run OSX
Mac can run Windows.

You don't see it often because it is crap to want to run OSX on windows. Useless.

I never said you couldn't.

I just said that it was illegal.

And it is not as stable as running windows on a mac. I do not know the exact program you are talking about to do this but it is probably an emulator which as you proved earlier is not as good as actually running the OS like you can do on a Mac. If it is not an emulator then you are no longer talking about Windows.

I'll put it like this.
Even though Mac is running Windows this debate is Mac VS Windows and Windows is the Operating System running these programs, though it is on a Mac computer Windows is running it and windows is the vs in the debate. So It has to win because by saying Mac runs Windows and Windows is part of the debate it wins, I hope you get it? Lol..

I read that 3 times and still don't understand.

Guy 1 has a Mac

Guy 2 has Windows

Guy 1 can do more stuff on his computer.

[HotelUser]

I never said you couldn't.

I just said that it was illegal.

And it is not as stable as running windows on a mac. I do not know the exact program you are talking about to do this but it is probably an emulator which as you proved earlier is not as good as actually running the OS like you can do on a Mac. If it is not an emulator then you are no longer talking about Windows.



I read that 3 times and still don't understand.

Guy 1 has a Mac

Guy 2 has Windows

Guy 1 can do more stuff on his computer.

No it is the exact same for each person. Because Windows can run Mac too.

And guy 1 is doing lots because he can run windows, therefor windows wins.

[BL!NKEY]

No it is the exact same for each person. Because Windows can run Mac too.

And guy 1 is doing lots because he can run windows, therefor windows wins.

Windows cant run OSX without emulation.

Maybe PCS can.

But this argument is Windows vs Macs

Macs can do more.

That cannot be debatable because we are comparing a computer which can run any operating system to one of the operating systems it can run.

It is not a fair debate but that is the one that was asked.

[HotelUser]

Windows cant run OSX without emulation.

Maybe PCS can.

But this argument is Windows vs Macs

Macs can do more.

That cannot be debatable because we are comparing a computer which can run any operating system to one of the operating systems it can run.

It is not a fair debate but that is the one that was asked.

Even if you couldn't run OSX on Windows Windows would win because you can put windows on macs. It's like merging both debate topics together.

Though the Mac is running Windows that is running all of the programs Mac is a debate topic and so is Windows, But like I said, all mac is doing is running Windows. Windows is the thing running the programs. One may argue that Mac is running Windows making it compatible though Mac can run other operating systems that make it not compatible, the fact that Windows(the debate topic I may add again) is so compatible makes windows win.