More / Better Moderators needed.

[Soil]

Pointless posting for example is what we call a piece of soft rule breaking. This occurs regularly and little if any action if taken for it, your likely just to have your post edited, so when I said the above I was implying hard rule breaking is deal with very quickly e.g. bullying, inappropriate post, filter abuse etc, the more important things that need to be dealt with.

I know what soft and hard rule breaks are :rolleyes:
One of them was rude and not a pointless post

Anyway those were just examples I found within 5 minutes of normal browsing. I am sure there are many more.
A few weeks ago someone spammed every forum. It took over 6 hours to remove it.

[Sammeth.]

Edit: I just realised this has nothing to do with the topic. I thought it was about something else, my bad

[JackHb]

The forum was much smaller at that time so its not as hard to moderate etc but yes they were all great people .

It wasnt that much smaller. When Seacat and me were running it was like it is now.

Not condeming anyone or anything but back then we were all like a small little family lol, all the management and admins and super mods etc use to speak on a regular basis and we were older than quite alot of people now who are on here.

The moderators would also work there butts off to try and become higher up (maybe they still are like that now, i dont know).
And it looks like a lot of members don't respect the mod's, if they used to cheek the mods me and ash would do stuff to wind the user up, they soon would stop.

[the wombats]

It wasnt that much smaller. When Seacat and me were running it was like it is now.

Not condeming anyone or anything but back then we were all like a small little family lol, all the management and admins and super mods etc use to speak on a regular basis and we were older than quite alot of people now who are on here.

The moderators would also work there butts off to try and become higher up (maybe they still are like that now, i dont know).

ah i remember them days, it'd be a ban everyday for calling you a name on MSN. that was when hxf was decent. now though the staff just suck up for promotions. i should be a mod again.

[JackHb]

ah i remember them days, it'd be a ban everyday for calling you a name on MSN. that was when hxf was decent. now though the staff just suck up for promotions. i should be a mod again.

No a ban was to easy for you, changing your pass and email and stuff like that was more fun.
Or changing your name to some lame word lol

[the wombats]

you should come back as management, make it decent again. just stop with all the abuse. like on my 16th birthday when nearly all admins and super mods messed with my account, you made av and sig. jin gave me a huge usertitle ect ect

[nvrspk4]

I think we need more moderators or moderators who actually do their job properly

I was looking at Discuss Anything - Took me 5 minutes and I found all these. You really need better moderators. Also, most of them are over a week old.
http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?...0&postcount=10 - pointless post
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=399616 - wrong forum
http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?...87&postcount=6 - pointless post. nothing to do with the topic.
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=399525 - wrong forum
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=398975 - already a thread on it
http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?...4&postcount=12 - pointless post again
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=398916 - already posted in sports forum. so multiple thread on same topic.
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=397929 - wrong forum

^^ Most of them might get edited now. I dont think the forum moderators are doing a great job in Discuss Anything (apart from mattmeister)
Above are just examples, I am sure there are alot more.

I know a lot of threads are posted each day, but I am sure if I can find them by just looking around the forum, moderators can too.

Oh and please dont just say "report them"

In all honesty, half of those threads are soft rule breaking, and the other half aren't. Two were urgent I believe.

Also, as far as "report them" goes, its really what the moderation system is based on now. With such a huge forum, its impossible for them to catch everything, so they rely on reports. Whether that is good or bad is up for debate, however that is the reason why its so commonly quoted.

If they dont come online then just fire them. There is no point having forum rules if most moderators dont do anything.

Mattmeister, you are the only moderator who actually deserves a job.

According to the list, the only mod who hasn't been online in more than a day (well, one was on "2" days ago, but that's because its past midnight, so its really not two days ago) is this bloke called "MAD", he claims to be a backup account, but methinks he's lying :eusa_danc

I think every forum should have 4 moderators each.
Also, assign two super moderators to each catagory (so their main focus is that catagory, but they can also moderate other forums too). As super moderators moderate all forums, I am sure they dont visit a lot of forums.

While seemingly practical in principle, you have to realize that having four mods for every forum would give us over 100 mods...and 2 SMods per category would leave us 16 SMods...both of which are huge numbers.

Yes but it doesnt mean they cant keep to a certain section, i think it would be better then they each have their own section though they can search other sections if needed, but they have a section each, two super mods to each section

It seems good to me :]

By increasing the number of staff, we slowly lose quality, and we have to hire worse and worse mods, just because we need more and more and more, thus we have a *lot* of mods, but a lot of bad ones too

It should make it easier then? I dont see many mod edits.
And if that forum has a lot of rule breaking then assign more moderators to that forum :s

Excuses excuses excuses

There's more to modding than mod edits

I have seen a lot of posts which take over a week to get removed. Sometimes they are ignored. I pointed out a few pointless posts in my first post. They were around 10 days old.
Also not all the moderators are trialists ...

Pointless posts aren't really dealt with unless they're very serious. Its easy to click report, and things are sorted much faster.

It wasnt that much smaller. When Seacat and me were running it was like it is now.

Not condeming anyone or anything but back then we were all like a small little family lol, all the management and admins and super mods etc use to speak on a regular basis and we were older than quite alot of people now who are on here.

The moderators would also work there butts off to try and become higher up (maybe they still are like that now, i dont know).
And it looks like a lot of members don't respect the mod's, if they used to cheek the mods me and ash would do stuff to wind the user up, they soon would stop.

Unfortunately the situation then and the situation now are two very different times, I wish it weren't that way. I was friends with all the SMods and Admins then, but now I only know some of the SMods and most of the admins. Of course that could be because I work less in the forum department

I think part of the problem with the current system is that it removes the Mod Level as a sort of place for a while, and we use more Super Mods than mods. Personally, I don't like it, because people can get promoted when doing less, and often there are more SMods than mods. I know that in the past, the work was very diligent, because there were 20 people competing for one spot, and there were people who were around for ages and took a while to earn their position.

As far as the lack of respect for mods, yes it is evident among some users. The main change is that users have (some anyway) decided that it is their right to abuse the mods and staff, and it is the mods and staff's job to take it, and not do anything about it. While we do like constructive criticism, members take snipes a lot now. Also, we can't have fun like we used to any more Once I banned Adzeh and within 5 minutes I had a thread asking why he had been banned, once I explained I was accused of being corrupt and power hungry and power abusing and lovely other things. The current atmosphere really doesn't allow moderators to interact with members, which I believe would make the members happier, but however Moderators currently have to hold themselves on a higher level to maintain professionalism, and to avoid conflicts with members, which is quite sad really (sad not as in the negative way...as in like triste, for those of you Spaniards.)



As far as the Moderators go, I think the system is probably debatable about its effectiveness, because the previous system was more catch-all and filter it all out, whereas now they look at the big picture and focus on post reports to be able to sort things out, so they accomplish more with less staff. There are various pros and cons to each argument. I think, in an effort to keep this on track and civilized (and open), discussion should be about possible changes to the system itself, as opposed to attacking individual moderators for their incompetence, because that is when it will become a problem, as we are very protective of our staff, because they can't reply in-kind, we have to protect them from abuse. It hasn't gotten too bad so far, but I don't want a decent point to be turned into a 10 page flame-fest which then needs to be closed.

[Soil]

My comments in red.

In all honesty, half of those threads are soft rule breaking, and the other half aren't. Two were urgent I believe.

Urgent and nothign was done about it for a week

Also, as far as "report them" goes, its really what the moderation system is based on now. With such a huge forum, its impossible for them to catch everything, so they rely on reports. Whether that is good or bad is up for debate, however that is the reason why its so commonly quoted.

It still has the same number of active members as it did when Jack and Ash ran the forum. They managed then?

According to the list, the only mod who hasn't been online in more than a day (well, one was on "2" days ago, but that's because its past midnight, so its really not two days ago) is this bloke called "MAD", he claims to be a backup account, but methinks he's lying :eusa_danc

By active, I mean actually looking at the threads and editing posts. Otherwise mdos will just log on for 2 secs each day and say "I have been active"

While seemingly practical in principle, you have to realize that having four mods for every forum would give us over 100 mods...and 2 SMods per category would leave us 16 SMods...both of which are huge numbers.

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So each smod has 2 catagories. And each mod has 4 forums. Your point there was just stupid.

By increasing the number of staff, we slowly lose quality, and we have to hire worse and worse mods, just because we need more and more and more, thus we have a *lot* of mods, but a lot of bad ones too

Not really. You get companies with 1000 staff, they dont loose quality? It all depends on their management. Before there used to be 3 smods and like 20-30 mods. They all used to be great. Now its easy to become smod if you are a mod. Before it was very hard, thats why mods tried so hard.



Unfortunately the situation then and the situation now are two very different times, I wish it weren't that way. I was friends with all the SMods and Admins then, but now I only know some of the SMods and most of the admins. Of course that could be because I work less in the forum department

Its the lack of communication between management and mods.

I think part of the problem with the current system is that it removes the Mod Level as a sort of place for a while, and we use more Super Mods than mods. Personally, I don't like it, because people can get promoted when doing less, and often there are more SMods than mods. I know that in the past, the work was very diligent, because there were 20 people competing for one spot, and there were people who were around for ages and took a while to earn their position.

Exactly.

As far as the lack of respect for mods, yes it is evident among some users. The main change is that users have (some anyway) decided that it is their right to abuse the mods and staff, and it is the mods and staff's job to take it, and not do anything about it. While we do like constructive criticism, members take snipes a lot now. Also, we can't have fun like we used to any more Once I banned Adzeh and within 5 minutes I had a thread asking why he had been banned, once I explained I was accused of being corrupt and power hungry and power abusing and lovely other things.

Jin, Ash and Jack had the reputation of abusing people. When I was smod, my name was changed to "ILoveMen" etc every day. Jin used to change my permissions so I couldnt see anything. Thats because they listened to members etc. Tbh, I dont see MAD doing that. He is more serious and lacks respect.

I think the best idea will be to bring back the old system.

• 3 Super Moderators Maximum
• Atleast 20 Moderators

That way each mod will try their best to become super moderator.

It wasnt that much smaller. When Seacat and me were running it was like it is now.

Not condeming anyone or anything but back then we were all like a small little family lol, all the management and admins and super mods etc use to speak on a regular basis and we were older than quite alot of people now who are on here.

The moderators would also work there butts off to try and become higher up (maybe they still are like that now, i dont know).
And it looks like a lot of members don't respect the mod's, if they used to cheek the mods me and ash would do stuff to wind the user up, they soon would stop.

Good old days. MAD lacks respect so members abuse him and mods. Alot of moderators also lack respect. They seem to think they can do what they want. Before contact us e-mails were replied to, now they are just ignored.

Half mine just get ignored anyway (they arent emails which dont need replies).

[@xP]

Well in Discuss Anything. Out of the three mods, I have only seen you post and moderate. Maybe matt64 and devil.wont.Cry do edit. I cant really comment as I cant see mod logs etc.

But either way, better moderators or more moderators are needed in that forum.

I think every forum should have 4 moderators each.

I agree however that would be a hell of alot of staff.
Also Habbox needs more Super Moderators.

There not enough of them to help the normal forum moderators out.

[Soil]

I agree however that would be a hell of alot of staff.
Also Habbox needs more Super Moderators.

There not enough of them to help the normal forum moderators out.

Like I said in my previous post, each forum can have 4 moderators. And each moderator can mod 4 forums each. Thats how it used to be a year ago and there was no problems.
I dont have a clue why MAD changed a perfectly good system :S Bit stupid.