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    it makes me laugh how you said Beyonce was a flop when her album sold 6 million, but MJ isnt a flop with his 2 million?

    He is a legend I'm not saying hes not, but he did do things to kids and its not exactly forgetable mate. So whatever, think what you like but he could have promoted he got bad press and suddenly re-sells this album and expects it to do brilliantly? He should not have that attitude.
    I can read thanks, I just dont agree with you - not everyone has too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by N-Dubz View Post
    it makes me laugh how you said Beyonce was a flop when her album sold 6 million, but MJ isnt a flop with his 2 million?

    He is a legend I'm not saying hes not, but he did do things to kids and its not exactly forgetable mate. So whatever, think what you like but he could have promoted he got bad press and suddenly re-sells this album and expects it to do brilliantly? He should not have that attitude.
    I can read thanks, I just dont agree with you - not everyone has too.
    I thought you weren't going to continue? Beyonce isn't as big of a legend as Michael Jackson is, lol...If he had really have done these supposed things, don't you think they wouldn't have fallen through in court? Me too. How do you know that he expected it to do brilliantly? All of his fans had wanted him to bring out something new, whether it be a new compilation or a re-release.

    I'm not saying you have to agree with me, I'm merely disagreeing with the majority of the points you're making because they don't stand a chance.

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    Stand a chance against what exactly, your own personal criticisms of them. You seem to think you come across is perfectly correct on every issue, but as this is a FORUM every thing you and everyone says is clearly debatable.
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    It fell through because there wasnt evidence, but he did it.
    Why else would you have a sleepover with a 13 year old boy, who has bunk beds and end up in his bed? Why would you be in a room with a boy for hours, and hours and ask not to be disturbed? yeah go figure boy.

    An Beyonce isnt a legend but she still sold more then him, so how does that make sense :S...


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    Quote Originally Posted by stickwitu View Post
    Stand a chance against what exactly, your own personal criticisms of them. You seem to think you come across is perfectly correct on every issue, but as this is a FORUM every thing you and everyone says is clearly debatable.
    See, you're putting words in my mouth again. I said they don't stand a chance because she isn't justifying her claims with proof. I know I'm not always right, but I argue for what I feel I should argue for, there's no shame in that. Everything everybody says can be debated, whether it's moral or immoral, I don't need to be told things that go without saying.

    And N-Dubz, you just contradicted the point you made. If there wasn't evidence, how the hell can you prove that he did it? He didn't prevent the boy from leaving, did he? I love how people are so quick to blame the celebrity when the people who make the accusations at hand just want a huge pay out, it's all he PROBABLY wanted. All in all, I doubt that Beyonce has sold more records overall than Michael has.
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    It doesn't matter what MJ sells anymore, no one will take his record of best selling solo artist, since no one buys records anymore!!!!!!
    Last edited by apollo; 14-06-2008 at 07:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N-Dubz View Post
    it makes me laugh how you said Beyonce was a flop when her album sold 6 million, but MJ isnt a flop with his 2 million?

    He is a legend I'm not saying hes not, but he did do things to kids and its not exactly forgetable mate. So whatever, think what you like but he could have promoted he got bad press and suddenly re-sells this album and expects it to do brilliantly? He should not have that attitude.
    I can read thanks, I just dont agree with you - not everyone has too.
    Like I said before, no one expected the album to do great - it was just a resell, but in my opinion it did great. I doubt he expected it to do brilliantly. And if he had 'done things with kids' he wouldn't have come out innocent.

    Quote Originally Posted by N-Dubz View Post
    It fell through because there wasnt evidence, but he did it.
    I'm sorry..? :S

    Quote Originally Posted by N-Dubz View Post
    An Beyonce isnt a legend but she still sold more then him, so how does that make sense :S...
    Michael has the biggest selling album of all time, Beyonce doesnt. Beyonce herself has said if it wasn't for Michael, she would never have become an artist.
    This is turning into a Michael Jackson argument than a R Kelly one.
    Last edited by MJJ; 14-06-2008 at 07:29 PM.


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    I don't see why we're comparing Beyonce's sales to Michael's anyway - Jess just made the point that you considering 6 million album sales a flop when clearly it's far from it.
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    I hope this damages his career like Micheal Jackson's case has damaged his.

    And N-Dubz, you cling on to the fact that you know MJ is a "kiddy fiddler" but he was cleared of all charges but when R Kelly was cleared it means he is innocent?

    Micheal Jackson was and still is a legend. No one should let media slurs get in the way of seeing what a truely inspirational artist Micheal was.

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    R. Kelly didnt pay the accuser $20 million to keep silent like Micheal Jackson did, in his 1993 trial.
    Jury did find the sleeping in beds with boys and sleepovers with them weird and unexplainable.
    Elvis Presley's daugther even siad he took more intrest in her son then herself.


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