My Project Idea

[Klydo]

Office space would help you, if you want to work by yourself in a peaceful enviroment then you need to have the mind and ideas of the creator of Craig's List. Otherwise you're going to get no where.

One of the first things you need is to at very least have a place where you can meet and discuss ideas. MSN, Skype and whatever else aren't good enough. Having pen, paper and maybe a whiteboard makes all the difference. So if you want to make this work you need to at very least meet at either one another's houses or rent out a small meeting space/hotel room for a period of time.

[Joshuae]

As said on MSN, we can't exactly afford an office right now, and what would be the point, purchasing/renting an office, for a company no-ones heard of yet?

[Source]

Thats not the point. You seem to keep missing the key point.

The keypoint is to get a local team where its easy for you to meet up and discuss things. Get a plan of action done etc...

[Joshuae]

Thats not the point. You seem to keep missing the key point.

The keypoint is to get a local team where its easy for you to meet up and discuss things. Get a plan of action done etc...

That's one of your keypoints. It doesn't matter for the beginning of the project. As long the people involved have strong social abilities.

Look at Klydo, Greg & Caleb did awesome work with that, and it went far.

[Source]

You can't even compare it to klydo.

Klydo was 2 people, and even then progress was slowed down when communication lacked between the 2.

[Joshuae]

You can't even compare it to klydo.

Klydo was 2 people, and even then progress was slowed down when communication lacked between the 2.

Yes I can.

This is 2 people pretty much, not going to have loads involved.

[Excellent]

Right this thread is getting pointless, will you both stop forsaking preposterous insults and talk like mature people. As Klydo said, an office space is ideal but NOT always needed. Some bands start in a garage - not a huge great big stage.

At the end of the day, two people, 1 can design, 1 can code = not going to work as you want it to. You need a dedicated and loyal team of about 5-6 to start a decent company such as the market you're trying to pop into.

This is in no way criticism but it's the truth. You cannot plan a "company" and automatically think you're the next best thing since sliced bread - don't get like Darren. I think for both of you to get some staff on-side and some clients is to post what you can both do - we have seen nothing in this thread but an idea - nothing solid.

Jahmes can code - not being horrible but all I've seen from you Jahmes is an WHM account creator and a paypal checker - nothing solid. But I don't know you so I'm not going to say you cannot do anything advanced, you may be an awesome coder - just show it.

Josh I know can design and can vouch for him.

[Joshuae]

Right this thread is getting pointless, will you both stop forsaking preposterous insults and talk like mature people. As Klydo said, an office space is ideal but NOT always needed. Some bands start in a garage - not a huge great big stage.

At the end of the day, two people, 1 can design, 1 can code = not going to work as you want it to. You need a dedicated and loyal team of about 5-6 to start a decent company such as the market you're trying to pop into.

This is in no way criticism but it's the truth. You cannot plan a "company" and automatically think you're the next best thing since sliced bread - don't get like Darren. I think for both of you to get some staff on-side and some clients is to post what you can both do - we have seen nothing in this thread but an idea - nothing solid.

Jahmes can code - not being horrible but all I've seen from you Jahmes is an WHM account creator and a paypal checker - nothing solid. But I don't know you so I'm not going to say you cannot do anything advanced, you may be an awesome coder - just show it.

Josh I know can design and can vouch for him.

If you read, the first post, I said I'm not expecting this to be huge within a week, and yeah, I know we need 5-6, but it's us 2 at this current moment.
We'll be posting updates soon over this week, for our work and srvices.

I can vouch for James, from what he's doing now, he's brilliant.

[Hypertext]

Greg is 100% correct.

Whilst at home it's way too easy to get distracted and it's not structured. Also I'd advise you still to do with only people you know in real life.

There are some offices in Chicago where you can rent them for a few hours. Alternatively you could just go to a Starbucks and bring laptop if it's talking that you need. The main thing is that it is structured and strict.

I also suggest hiring a tax attorney like I did - this will help a lot deciding about taxes etc. Well thats in America (I've almost forgot how it works in England:S).

I'd also advise hiring an accountant to sort out your finances per Q.

If your serious about this, you'll do it with some friends or a friend and you'll need maybe 1-2k to start. Unless you can get a loan..

I don't know how old you are, but if your not 17-18? I can't remember how old in England.. you won't be able to get a loan but you might be able to get a grant if all else fails, I hope you have a couple gs in the bank.

Good luck and update me if it's a success or failure.

-Charlie

Edit:

Greg, thankyou!

Yes - I am running a successful web design business with a friend in real life - a designer - don't flame me, saying I haven't got the balls to post it.. but to be honest if it's successful I get payed about 25x irl than a habbo template..lol.

Greg moved on from fantasies and now has a decent job working with people in real life which works 200% better.

I didn't read your response earlier Joshuae.

That was PATHETIC. I gave you a really constuctive response explaining that about 99% of e-projects fail and have failed look through web design projects and add up how many failed. All the web design businesses that were *e-only* I guarantee have failed.

Real web design business comes from word of mouth. Real mouths :rolleyes:

Thanks for sticking up for me Matt. He's sad because I'm telling him the truth.

I'll go back to the company I work for now, even though you'll all say it's fake. We have a commodities trader as our CEO, then a CTO as our technical director, then theres 3 developers (including me), a designer, a new flex/flash developer, and an administration/get advertisements employee. If your about to say it's all fake, I really don't care. I'm trying to help.

_Charlie

[Klydo]

Klydo.com is the best example of this. It wasn't financially possible for myself and Caleb to meet let alone get an office space so we had to either communicate using Skype or just text via MSN. This normally caused issues with ideas and comments being misheard or misinterperated. When in person you can describe things a lot better and easily pass ideas between each other.

Yes Klydo did go a long way and the system as well as design was very useful and was what both of us wanted. However it took 3 months to get to that point and during those 3 months we had countless arguements and disagreements when it came to how the site should flow and be coded. Where as if we were in person these ideas could all be organised and explained before any work is done.

However you're missing the point to having a "business", you need people to run the business side of things not just the production. For example Youmeo has a couple of people who only focus on business in accounting, marketing and administration. Then there is a whole other team for coding, designing and up keep. If it was only the web development that was in the business it would fail instantly.

So just recruiting designers and coders is not the way to go.