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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercenary View Post
    Calling human instincts, your ancestors were doing the same thing. Hunting for something and killing it is the most natural thing to us humans. It should have ******* stayed that way, people who can't hunt died.
    Cavemen hunted for food, not for sport. If you want to live that way then you can always go and live in a cave with some aborigines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgin Mary View Post
    Cavemen hunted for food, not for sport. If you want to live that way then you can always go and live in a cave with some aborigines.
    Read your own quote, then read my reply. You simply stated the urge to chase something and kill it, an urge we all have. However, I'll reply to this quote also.

    The fact is, we do not know a lot about this, however there are definitely elements of sport in hunting for cavemen, such as catching the biggest animals (trunks) which back then would have shown how strong and skilled you were, and this also would have been equilvalent to your rank in their society. No, they don't want to live in a cave, they have all the right to do what they're doing. Banning hunting is the beginning of what is really happening, just think take a step back and see these laws. Banning hunting, curfews, recession etc etc etc..
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    Times change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercenary View Post
    Calling human instincts, your ancestors were doing the same thing. Hunting for something and killing it is the most natural thing to us humans. It should have ******* stayed that way, people who can't hunt died.
    Point 1. Our Ancestors also used to rape young girls, murder and eat other human beings do we carry on with these acts? No we apply a moral code to the acts and as a society legislate against them.

    Point 2. "People who can't hunt died". I don't think this sentence needs to be argued against but simply underlined. When you apply evolutionary principles to society it only leads you to Nazi Germany in the 1930's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splinter View Post
    Point 1. Our Ancestors also used to rape young girls, murder and eat other human beings do we carry on with these acts? No we apply a moral code to the acts and as a society legislate against them.

    Point 2. "People who can't hunt died". I don't think this sentence needs to be argued against but simply underlined. When you apply evolutionary principles to society it only leads you to Nazi Germany in the 1930's.
    Did I ever mention that I agree with raping women? No, you're putting words into my mouth. I was simply using that example for that quote.

    It's not a secret the biggest medical breakthroughs were made in the concentration camps, things like transplants wouldn't have been imaginable unless if someone didn't try it and do it in that manner. Two sides to every story. You act as if Nazi Germany was only a dark era, things like rights and general views on racism had been re-thought after the 1940's when they discovered the things that went on in these camps and under Hitlers rein.

    No, it's not true. Nazi Germany was like that because of one person only, the same person that bombed his own Reichstag to call himself a Fuhrer. You apply evolutionary principles to society every day, without this we wouldn't have moved on from raping girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercenary View Post
    Did I ever mention that I agree with raping women? No, you're putting words into my mouth. I was simply using that example for that quote.

    It's not a secret the biggest medical breakthroughs were made in the concentration camps, things like transplants wouldn't have been imaginable unless if someone didn't try it and do it in that manner. Two sides to every story. You act as if Nazi Germany was only a dark era, things like rights and general views on racism had been re-thought after the 1940's when they discovered the things that went on in these camps and under Hitlers rein.

    No, it's not true. Nazi Germany was like that because of one person only, the same person that bombed his own Reichstag to call himself a Fuhrer. You apply evolutionary principles to society every day, without this we wouldn't have moved on from raping girls.
    No but you believed that we should behave how our ancestors did and all I am pointing out is how they behaved. You can't cherry pick and say that we should carry on hunting because its innate within us but that rape, murder and cannibalism are wrong. We are naturally superstitious should be follow those feelings or side with reason and evidence?

    As for the Second World War eradicating racism? Well clearly not in America it took the civil rights movement to get equal voting rights for blacks and racism is now still prevalent in nearly every society around the world. As for the medical advances.. well I don't see 6 million Jewish lives and the suffering that led to the advances as really worth it. Maybe you do.

    As for society moving on because of survival of the fittest thats rubbish, it moved on inspite of that principle. If we still lived by that principle then we would still have a life expectancy of 30 years and we would still be hunter gathers whos only objective in life was reproduction. Entering into a society does away with that principle as those who are strongest are forced to cohabit with those who are the weakest which isn't beneficial to them. And if we live by those principles today then explain the welfare state?

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    I really dont think just because we're the more powerful species we should kill animals for a sport.
    Thats like another species that was more brainer then us coming and killing us just for the fun of it and because they can.

    An we do have really good technology but like how is it predictable when an animal will attack? so you wouldnt know when your loving dog might try to bite you to even have time to blow its brains out LOL.
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    My view is that it is bad and should be stopped

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    Im a vegetarian, I don't think this is fair.
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    I don't agree or disagree with foxhunting. Yes foxes are a pain the the bum for farmers and anyone who forgets to close their bin lids at night, but getting hunting houds to rip them apart is not acceptable. And anyway- culling at the den is much more effective, since it exterminates the mother and her cubs together. Instead of leaving it to the dogs to kill the mum and let the cubs starve. Anyway, i agree with georgelol- hunters should use guns.




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