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View Poll Results: What changes would you like to see on the forum?

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  • 15 posts rule lowered to 5 & thread viewing limitations on non-registered users implemented.

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  • Would like to see 15 posts rule lowered to 5 and would not like to see thread viewing limitations

    5 14.29%
  • Would like to see thread viewing limitations to guests but would not like the 15 posts rule lowered to 5

    2 5.71%
  • I would not like to see any of these changes made

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    You don't seem to understand that just because people are told to register for something they don't always do it. I for one certainly don't unless I actually want something from the site and want to be involved, and I'm sure a massive number of young users who haven't been involved in forums before would be entirely put off by the idea of having to register just to see a news thread that they could probably have got the gist of from the main site anyway
    No, you don't seem to understand that the vast majority WILL register, it's OBVIOUSLY working for CHF, and works for many forums on the internet, most of the forums I visited before I was a member MADE me register on the forum, even if it was too just see content, but now - because I am registered, I do post. Even though I thought I wouldn't have.

    just because people are told to register for something they don't always do it. I for one certainly don't unless I actually want something from the site and want to be involved,
    Just because you assume newer guests to the forum won't want this, you don't want it to be impelmented? This matter won't be effecting you, so why are you bothered about what you would want? It won't be affecting you at all. Yes, a vast majority of younger people visiting this forum might not have seen a forum before, therefore not knowing how to register, (sounds stupid, but it happens) if this was change was made and implemented then it would certainly bring in more members. And have you been reading the thread? we said it should only be implemented on CERTAIN forums, not all.

    You also seem to assume (in the 1st sentence quoted) that people who are registered will post.
    The vast majority will. But even so, that is totally besides the point. If you haven't realised this forum is becoming a lot less active, we need MORE ACTIVE members, and the only way to get more active members is to first persuade them to join HxF. And this is why these suggestions should be implemented.

    http://www.habboxforum.com/memberlis...posts&page=959

    ^ 959 pages of registered members with 10 or less posts, of which

    http://www.habboxforum.com/memberlist.php?&pp=30&order=asc&sort=posts&page=57 1


    ^ 571 pages of registered members without a single post
    Seeing as though there are 45,000 registered members on this forum, those numbers you just posted are microscopic. Wouldn't you rather we take the chance of gaining more members and maybe creating a newer generation of Habbox users onto this forum? because that's what these changes are for, they're for the future. As I stated before, the only way to get more active members (of which will be the next generation of HxF users) is to get them to register first and foremost, then next is to make them become active, which I'm sure most of those will do on their own accord.

    And that's at 30 members per page, over 17,000 non-posting members out of 37,159 shown on the member list. Well over half of the registered (and not banned) members have 10 or less posts by the looks of it, so getting a few new people who will be just as active as that isn't worth a forum overhaul. We need members who are interested and will stay, not just what I'd term as "registered guests" who might comment every now and then
    Those numbers don't mean anything. What's 1% of nothing? whats 1% of an extra 5,000-10,000 members? yes, my point exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    i disagree with that; as you're basically encouraging users to spam so instead of 20 people saying welcome in every thread to get post count it'd turn out to be like 200, and every thread in graphics "I LIKE IT 9/10" etc.
    No, because that '5 posts' thing is still running, thus stopping spammers.

    Anyway, the poll says it all. I know this probably won't be implemented for a long time, if at all - because it is quite a big update to put into affect, but I see this as a major stepping block in trying to get newer members on the forum, and making HxF last longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolves, View Post
    No, you don't seem to understand that the vast majority WILL register, it's OBVIOUSLY working for CHF, and works for many forums on the internet, most of the forums I visited before I was a member MADE me register on the forum, even if it was too just see content, but now - because I am registered, I do post. Even though I thought I wouldn't have.
    I don't know what the posts per day ratio between here and CHF is but until you come up with that figure you can't claim anything is "working" for them - as I keep saying, more members rather than guests is not a show of a successful forum

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolves, View Post
    we said it should only be implemented on CERTAIN forums, not all.
    In which case you either let them see the forums that are more interesting to them and they don't need to register, or you only let them see the more boring parts and they won't want to

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolves, View Post
    The vast majority will. But even so, that is totally besides the point. If you haven't realised this forum is becoming a lot less active, we need MORE ACTIVE members, and the only way to get more active members is to first persuade them to join HxF. And this is why these suggestions should be implemented.
    Please find something to back up your theory that people registering just to view a forum will make them active posters. All I see it doing is making a few people post here and there when they feel their comment is necessary but otherwise not bothering - if they were that bothered they'd have already joined

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolves, View Post
    Seeing as though there are 45,000 registered members on this forum, those numbers you just posted are microscopic.
    Well over a third having never posted at all and over half having posted less than 10 times is microscopic? That's quite some comment to make, I'd like to hear more about how 17/45 is a tiny amount to take into consideration

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolves, View Post
    Wouldn't you rather we take the chance of gaining more members and maybe creating a newer generation of Habbox users onto this forum?
    At the very real risk of losing a lot of much-needed traffic (and therefore revenue, and therefore capability, and therefore longevity) for the site? Nope

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolves, View Post
    Those numbers don't mean anything. What's 1% of nothing? whats 1% of an extra 5,000-10,000 members? yes, my point exactly.
    Where did you get 5-10k from? In all the years this forum's been open, we have (as you kindly pointed out) around 45,000 members, so I don't see how you can possibly expect such numbers to join (much less post frequently and positively) just by making a few guests join
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    if you read the posts you'd see that we're not talking about new members spamming?

    If you say member with most posts in the next month gets 2 month VIP then people are gonna spam like hell to get loads of posts, so most threads would have people posting crap just to get post count up, which is what i disagree with.

    also, theres 63884 members including those who are banned/deleted.
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    5 per day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktard View Post
    5 per day?
    try and quote something, as from previous posts and looking at your reply the reply just looks stupid..

    what are you talking about?

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    I think he's suggesting that people could view five threads a day ~ not a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    I don't know what the posts per day ratio between here and CHF is but until you come up with that figure you can't claim anything is "working" for them - as I keep saying, more members rather than guests is not a show of a successful forum
    Well it seems it's a bit more active than HxF is at the moment, and no, I can't find that data, cause it doesn't exist, just going by what I see on the two forums anyway.

    Please find something to back up your theory that people registering just to view a forum will make them active posters. All I see it doing is making a few people post here and there when they feel their comment is necessary but otherwise not bothering - if they were that bothered they'd have already joined
    If I could, I would, but I can't, and neither can anyone, only the people that own the forums can do that. Please tell me why most other forums have this already enabled? it obviously works.


    Well over a third having never posted at all and over half having posted less than 10 times is microscopic? That's quite some comment to make, I'd like to hear more about how 17/45 is a tiny amount to take into consideration
    If you actually read what I quoted in that part of my post, you'd see I wasn't talking about that part.

    At the very real risk of losing a lot of much-needed traffic (and therefore revenue, and therefore capability, and therefore longevity) for the site? Nope
    I don't see what you are getting at? We could turn this 'much needed traffic' into 'much needed members & traffic'

    Where did you get 5-10k from? In all the years this forum's been open, we have (as you kindly pointed out) around 45,000 members, so I don't see how you can possibly expect such numbers to join (much less post frequently and positively) just by making a few guests join
    I was thinking about the numbers that we may pull in because of this feature, maybe I was optimistic, but over time it will get the forum A LOT more members, and hopefully more active members - fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    if you read the posts you'd see that we're not talking about new members spamming?
    What are you talking about?

    If you say member with most posts in the next month gets 2 month VIP then people are gonna spam like hell to get loads of posts, so most threads would have people posting crap just to get post count up, which is what i disagree with.
    They won't neccasarilly post spam, I don't think people are sad enough to come on a forum and post loads just too get VIP? it will be all natural if you get me.

    also, theres 63884 members including those who are banned/deleted.
    Lmao, stop getting smart (I was talking about non-banned members)... the forum homepage doesn't lie; 'Habbox Forum Statistics

    Threads: 581,620, Posts: 5,731,613, Members: 44,629
    Welcome to our newest member, Kagemand'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolves, View Post
    Well it seems it's a bit more active than HxF is at the moment, and no, I can't find that data, cause it doesn't exist, just going by what I see on the two forums anyway.



    If I could, I would, but I can't, and neither can anyone, only the people that own the forums can do that. Please tell me why most other forums have this already enabled? it obviously works.




    If you actually read what I quoted in that part of my post, you'd see I wasn't talking about that part.



    I don't see what you are getting at? We could turn this 'much needed traffic' into 'much needed members & traffic'



    I was thinking about the numbers that we may pull in because of this feature, maybe I was optimistic, but over time it will get the forum A LOT more members, and hopefully more active members - fact.



    What are you talking about?



    They won't neccasarilly post spam, I don't think people are sad enough to come on a forum and post loads just too get VIP? it will be all natural if you get me.



    Lmao, stop getting smart (I was talking about non-banned members)... the forum homepage doesn't lie; 'Habbox Forum Statistics

    Threads: 581,620, Posts: 5,731,613, Members: 44,629
    Welcome to our newest member, Kagemand'

    Previous members wil spam more aswell so people will increase spam by LOADS to get vip or whatever.

    and as i stated theres more members banned/deleted etc, i was born smart, nothing i can do about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    Previous members wil spam more aswell so people will increase spam by LOADS to get vip or whatever.

    and as i stated theres more members banned/deleted etc, i was born smart, nothing i can do about that.
    They wouldn't spam really, it would just encourage more forum activity. And yes, you were born smart!!
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    they would spam, it would encourage people to post in most threads even ones which they don't know about or posting pointless msgs like 'good work!' 'nicely done 10/10' and junk just to get the extra post count where the wouldn't before so a massive increase in spam, so thats why i think competitions based on posts etc are junk

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