Relax the rules

[Seatherny]

I'd like to ask how the heck is that offensive at all? - because its not, if you get offended over that then god knows what you are like in the real world.

I tell you what Saurav, with this new clause I suggested to MattGarner it means that when a debate is on, you need to accept that people may say things that are not offensive, but they are things you might not agree with. That would mean you can't report every non-positive post I make and you'd know fully well what to expect in a debate. On professionalism, don't preach about professionalism/controlling to me when you have a signature that openly provokes me.

On the phrase, yes it is a common phrase because if it wasn't, you wouldn't understand what it ment and thus wouldn't be 'offended' by it.

You claimed it was common phrase in debates and politics. Rofl. Like I said, once you get proved wrong, you pretend you said something else to make it sound less bad. "Idiot" is common word. It doesnt mean its used in debates and politics. I cant even believe you are saying such things :S

Again, you ignored what I said, go find me what I said was racist but you can show that its not. You can't. You make baseless claims and then when you get proved wrong, you change the topic very quickly.

Saying that someone lacks common sense in everything IS calling them stupid. Most of your posts are highly unprofessional and childish.

Like I said:

You: Ok Sav
Me: Dont call me Sav. My name is Saurav. :rolleyes:
You: Sure Sav

Or something like that. Yeah, very professional and not trying to provoke an argument and frustrate people.

[AgnesIO]

Myself, another super moderator, Matt and a moderator discussed your post in detail before Matt came to a decision. It's entirely fair and as other people had been infracted for it as it was far too aggressive and a personal attack rather than sports banter you were not to be an exception.

It wasn't an attack, I was given my opinion (which on this occasion, what I was saying about everyone's dear friend Clowgon, every other user on this forum would agree).

I told you there is more nicer ways and you know there is. If you didn' come across rude in many of your posts, we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.

Yes and what I am saying, which you seem to be ignoring, is it is mad that you get told off if you swear, yet if you don't swear it is fine.

You have basically told me through PM that if I said 'you know naff all about sport, let's be honest' it is fine, yet if I say 'you know **** all about sport, let's be honest' that is bad. As far as I am concerned Matt, and this is the same as I was when I joined in 2007, there is nothing wrong with the odd swear word - and since you are not 12 years old, I think you should know that :rolleyes:

[-:Undertaker:-]

You claimed it was common phrase in debates and politics. Rofl. Like I said, once you get proved wrong, you pretend you said something else to make it sound less bad. "Idiot" is common word. It doesnt mean its used in debates and politics. I cant even believe you are saying such things :S

Again, you ignored what I said, go find me what I said was racist but you can show that its not. You can't. You make baseless claims and then when you get proved wrong, you change the topic very quickly.

Saying that someone lacks common sense in everything IS calling them stupid. Most of your posts are highly unprofessional and childish.

Like I said:

You: Ok Sav
Me: Dont call me Sav. My name is Saurav. :rolleyes:
You: Sure Sav

Or something like that. Yeah, very professional and not trying to provoke an argument and frustrate people.

It is a common phrase in all walks of life, yeah and your point being is..?

I am not debating racism in this thread, yet again you are trying to move the subject into another debate and hopefully get me in more trouble for something which has 'offended you'. The common sense part, no it isn't. Do you understand that some people may be highly intelligent but may lack common sense? - its a common condition which is linked to Austism and other conditions. They can be very clever, but lack common sense. I know a few people like that in school, clever guys - no common sense.

Again, do not preach about professionalism to me when you have that sort of signature which openly provokes me.

[Seatherny]

It is a common phrase in all walks of life, yeah and your point being is..?

I am not debating racism in this thread, yet again you are trying to move the subject into another debate and hopefully get me in more trouble for something which has 'offended you'. The common sense part, no it isn't. Do you understand that some people may be highly intelligent but may lack common sense? - its a common condition which is linked to Austism and other conditions. They can be very clever, but lack common sense. I know a few people like that in school, clever guys - no common sense.

Again, do not preach about professionalism to me when you have that sort of signature which openly provokes me.

OMG. Do you even read what I say? I said that you said it was a common phrase in debates in politics. Its NOT. Just because 1 person and yourself used it doesnt make it a common phrase.

Like I said in my previous post, Idiot is a common phrase, but its not in debates and politics. Do you see all politicians calling eahc other idiots? NO.

Lol, you wont show me where I claimed something was racist when infact it wasnt because you know you are wrong. PM it to me then. If not, then you are proving that you make baseless claims to look good and clever. But when challenged, you quickly make excuses and change the topic.

[-:Undertaker:-]

OMG. Do you even read what I say? I said that you said it was a common phrase in debates in politics. Its NOT. Just because 1 person and yourself used it doesnt make it a common phrase.

Like I said in my previous post, Idiot is a common phrase, but its not in debates and politics. Do you see all politicians calling eahc other idiots? NO.

Lol, you wont show me where I claimed something was racist when infact it wasnt because you know you are wrong. PM it to me then. If not, then you are proving that you make baseless claims to look good and clever. But when challenged, you quickly make excuses and change the topic.

I said it is a common phrase in all walks of life, perhaps you should read what I say rather than the other way around. No you do not, but this is a Habbo forum with teenagers on, but we still don't revert to using the words idiot and stupid because they are outright rude and wrong to use, hence why I have never used them on anyone here. On the racist part, you were one of the ones naming UKIP racist in your signature, hence openly provoking me (just as your signature is now) and you also claimed the immigration policy of UKIP was racist, I support that policy and I could take that as you calling me racist, just as you take me saying you lacked common sense as me calling you stupid/an idiot.

[Jamesy]

It wasn't an attack, I was given my opinion (which on this occasion, what I was saying about everyone's dear friend Clowgon, every other user on this forum would agree).



Yes and what I am saying, which you seem to be ignoring, is it is mad that you get told off if you swear, yet if you don't swear it is fine.

You have basically told me through PM that if I said 'you know naff all about sport, let's be honest' it is fine, yet if I say 'you know **** all about sport, let's be honest' that is bad. As far as I am concerned Matt, and this is the same as I was when I joined in 2007, there is nothing wrong with the odd swear word - and since you are not 12 years old, I think you should know that :rolleyes:

It's not the swearing (although it does say in staff rules that you shouldn't) it was the context in which it was said. We're not going to infract for a filter doing its job.

I hardly think that 2 smods, a mod and an AGM can be unfair if they are in unanimous agreement over a post that was clearly intended to be rude and argument fuelling (not discussion argument, personal argument).

[Seatherny]

I said it is a common phrase in all walks of life, perhaps you should read what I say rather than the other way around. No you do not, but this is a Habbo forum with teenagers on, but we still don't revert to using the words idiot and stupid because they are outright rude and wrong to use, hence why I have never used them on anyone here. On the racist part, you were one of the ones naming UKIP racist in your signature, hence openly provoking me (just as your signature is now) and you also claimed the immigration policy of UKIP was racist, I support that policy and I could take that as you calling me racist, just as you take me saying you lacked common sense as me calling you stupid/an idiot.

That is a debate, common sense is a common phrase used in debate and always will be, infact it was used by a senior politician back in 2001 (William Hague) whos campaign slogan was '£ Common sense' if I remember correctly. Theres nothing remotely offensive about it.

In this thread. Like I said, once you get proved wrong, you pretend you said something else.

[Hecktix]

It's not the swearing (although it does say in staff rules that you shouldn't) it was the context in which it was said. We're not going to infract for a filter doing its job.

I hardly think that 2 smods, a mod and an AGM can be unfair if they are in unanimous agreement over a post that was clearly intended to be rude and argument fuelling (not discussion argument, personal argument).

You can make that 3 smods. Tbh Demala your attitude around the forum stinks. You seem to think you are above everyone else, even in this thread you come across giving them messgae "Oh it's only clowgon he doesn't matter".

I've also seen you being rude to new members. It's not the attitude we want, you aren't better than anyone else that uses the forum and it's right that the Staff Editor will knock you down a peg or two when you step out of line.

[-:Undertaker:-]

In this thread. Like I said, once you get proved wrong, you pretend you said something else.

What on earth have you proved wrong there?? :S

[Chippiewill]

What on earth have you proved wrong there?? :S

You stated that it is a common phrase always used and then later you changed it to just used in Debates. :rolleyes:
Also comparing someone to 'common sense' is rude.