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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleSmith View Post
    Yet again of me saying. I only play GTA SA. Yet again back on topic to the wires?
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    I want a pc to be able to run GTA SA on high mode plus to be able to run photoshop but all i need to get is the wires and i dont know what wires i need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleSmith View Post
    *Removed* I want a pc to be able to run GTA SA on high mode plus to be able to run photoshop but all i need to get is the wires and i dont know what wires i need.
    and he pointed out that in his opinion it will run slower on XP. You're so rude after all of those times I've helped you in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleSmith View Post
    *Removed* I want a pc to be able to run GTA SA on high mode plus to be able to run photoshop but all i need to get is the wires and i dont know what wires i need.
    I did a bit of looking into this for you, because I was a bit curious too.

    If your hard disk is a SATA one, you should just need a SATA lead, which I believe looks like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowIm...%20ATA%20Cable
    And then you'd need a 5-pin SATA power cable.

    If you hard drive is IDE, I can't help you, because I don't know much about IDE.



    Back to the OS issue.
    Whats been said is that XP will make your games run slightly slower. If you want to stick with XP, thats your decision.

    I think it would be worth your while to use Windows 7, though, especially if you decide to upgrade the RAM and choose the graphics card I suggested. I'd like to also inform you that SA is compatible with Windows 7, too, so if you decided to choose 7, you'd still be able to play it. Plus, with DirectX 11 support on the graphics card I suggested, IF you wanted to buy any new games, they'd run reasonably well.

    But I can understand why you'd want to stick to XP, too.

    Looking over your specs again, I'd also have a look at the processor. A slightly better processor (I'm talking £40-£50 more, tops) would help to make a difference on your system, and would possibly speed up Photoshop (depending on the version, I don't know if PS can utilise more than 1 core)

    I've tried my best to help you, and if any of this is incorrect, I apologise. If you disagree with anything I've said, please don't shout at me, thats all I ask, because I could have easily not posted anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marky21 View Post
    I did a bit of looking into this for you, because I was a bit curious too.

    If your hard disk is a SATA one, you should just need a SATA lead, which I believe looks like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowIm...%20ATA%20Cable
    And then you'd need a 5-pin SATA power cable.

    If you hard drive is IDE, I can't help you, because I don't know much about IDE.



    Back to the OS issue.
    Whats been said is that XP will make your games run slightly slower. If you want to stick with XP, thats your decision.

    I think it would be worth your while to use Windows 7, though, especially if you decide to upgrade the RAM and choose the graphics card I suggested. I'd like to also inform you that SA is compatible with Windows 7, too, so if you decided to choose 7, you'd still be able to play it. Plus, with DirectX 11 support on the graphics card I suggested, IF you wanted to buy any new games, they'd run reasonably well.

    But I can understand why you'd want to stick to XP, too.

    Looking over your specs again, I'd also have a look at the processor. A slightly better processor (I'm talking £40-£50 more, tops) would help to make a difference on your system, and would possibly speed up Photoshop (depending on the version, I don't know if PS can utilise more than 1 core)

    I've tried my best to help you, and if any of this is incorrect, I apologise. If you disagree with anything I've said, please don't shout at me, thats all I ask, because I could have easily not posted anything.

    Nahh i wont shout :/

    Id like to keep my price down as low as i can. Thanks for help.

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    Right, I've had another look at components, and I've tried to stick with the same prices as the other ones. I've kept under £250 (excluding an OS) and have aimed to maximise the performance as much as I could. I chose some components from somewhere else because either they were cheaper, or they were in stock (a lot of Scan's products aren't available, you see). I've just spent the last 25 minutes searching the net, comparing specifications, working things out for this.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-MATX-HDMI-VGA is the motherboard. Supports PCI-E 2.0 (the other one didnt) so that you can maximise the capabilities of your graphics card, and faster DDR3 memory (again, the other one didnt). It's only £15 more, though.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...ual-Core-E6500 for your processor. £7-8 more, but a higher FSB and a higher clock speed.

    Your case is fine, your PSU should be alright.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173708 for your graphics card. A bit better than the other one, and I've saved you £3 too

    http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/part...KIT12864BA1067 memory. It's DDR3, which is quicker, and compatible with the motherboard in this post. £6 more than your existing choice.

    I've also tried to find the cables for you, and I think I found the right ones, but I'm not sure.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141090 is the SATA data cable (I think)

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141091 SATA power cable (I think)

    This totals up at (including the cables, and excluding any delivery charges) £243.14

    It's £23 more than your original specifications, but its worth it, and remember the cables are included in that cost.

    Now, (and this is not me trying to force you to buy it), Windows 7 would take full advantage of these system specs, if you are prepared to buy it.

    I know you were trying to keep the price down, and I've only added a small bit on top of your costs, and this should help you get the best system for your money (would be a more-than-capable Photoshop and SA machine).

    Hope you appreciate all my hard work, I'm off for a cuppa.
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    Wow, Thanks for that its helped alot and must of took you a bit of time to find all of them. Il think about getting windows 7 but the cons of it are like some software dont support windows 7.

    Could anyone confirm if those wire Mark said are the ones needed please.

    Overall a great thanks.

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    Im going to have to buy a drive caus mines IDE not SATA

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleSmith View Post
    Wow, Thanks for that its helped alot and must of took you a bit of time to find all of them. Il think about getting windows 7 but the cons of it are like some software dont support windows 7.
    Quote Originally Posted by KyleSmith View Post
    Yet again back on topic to the wires?
    Hypocritical?

    Anyway, Windows 7 is better than XP and if it doesn't work on Windows 7 then you can run it in "XP mode" as well.

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    Hard disk: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/500-G...MB-Cache-89-ms

    It will give you more than enough room for all your data. (And if you download mods for SA, or indeed, any other games, they do take up a LOT of space. My Sims 3 Mods folder takes up 500Mb :S)

    Bumps the cost up to around £280 altogether, though.

    How big is your current hard disk, if you don't mind me asking? Because if it's less than 120/160Gb, you could probably get away with a 320Gb hard disk like http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/320-G...MB-Cache-89-ms . But, for the extra £5-6, you may as well get the 500Gb.

    Which software do you use that you don't think is compatible with Windows 7? Cos I'll try and find compatible versions if you like.

    XP mode is a solution, but you'd need 7 Professional or Ultimate. XP Mode requires a processor with Intel VT-x/AMD-V. The processor I posted has Intel VT-x, so you'd be all set.
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