General Election Vote

[Catzsy]

Interesting results, and it goes to show that if the Conservatives had a real leader and some real policies I would suspect the UKIP vote would go to the Conservatives giving them a massive majority (in this poll at least ) of 20. If Labour win the next election they will not of won it, it will be Dave who lost it.

I don't think Habbox Forum represents the real world of voting, Dan but you have your excuse ready just in case I see.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't think Habbox Forum represents the real world of voting, Dan but you have your excuse ready just in case I see.

I never said it did Rosie, just pointing out that if the Conservatives had real Conservative policies then this poll here would most likely mirror 20 for the Conservatives as UKIP represents traditional Conservative policies from the 1980s. In 2005 the Conservatives (even with right-wing Michael Howard) lost an estimated 30 seats because of the UKIP vote (and bare in mind in 2005 UKIP nearly split and only polled 2.2% of the vote) and now UKIP is predicted for a 6% of the vote this time around which could very well pull the keys of number 10 away from Camerons hands, and the blame lies with him and not the electorate. The BNP on the other hand polled I believe it was 0.8% in 2005 and the Greens also something similar, this year they are both predicted 4% to 5%.

[MrPinkPanther]

So please tell me why you are voting for UKIP if it represents 1980's Tory Policy. Both Thatcher and Majors time in office were dogged by high unemployment and an economy out of control with an increase in social injustice. I'm no New Labour fan but if you compare this to Labour they had over 10 years in office without any sort of Economic decline. I'd also like to add that the reason that Britain did so badly out of the global recession is because of Thatcher, her deregulation measures led to an increase in Toxic assets which the UK then had in abundance which is why we were hit so badly. You do NOT want traditional Conservative policy in the time of economic turmoil.

[-:Undertaker:-]

So please tell me why you are voting for UKIP if it represents 1980's Tory Policy. Both Thatcher and Majors time in office were dogged by high unemployment and an economy out of control and social injustice increased. I'm no New Labour fan but if you compare this to Labour they had over 10 years in office without any sort of Economic decline.

Well its quite simple really, thatcherite economics and conservative policy.

What do you call social injustice? - I know what you mean, the gap between rich and poor growing which coincidentally has grown under this government anyway but here is your simple and short reply to it and its something you (the left) need to finally grasp (and the stupid question was raised by a Liberal Democrat, suprise suprise!); http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okHGCz6xxiw

[MrPinkPanther]

Well its quite simple really, thatcherite economics and conservative policy.

What do you call social injustice? - I know what you mean, the gap between rich and poor growing which coincidentally has grown under this government anyway but here is your simple and short reply to it and its something you (the left) need to finally grasp (and the stupid question was raised by a Liberal Democrat, suprise suprise!); http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okHGCz6xxiw

Perhaps you should read my post? Year on year the economy grew for over 10 years under Labour, helping everyone. Of course Thatchers argument makes sense but it doesn't apply every time someone tries Economic redistribution, quite the opposite in fact. Under Labour everyone has become richer but especially those who were formally considered to be "poor" because of measures like Welfare to Work and Working families tax credit. (This isn't just speculation, an independent report last week showed this narrowing between Rich and Poor, I can't remember what it was called but it was reported in the Guardian)

Oh and it wasn't a stupid question at all. If there has been economic growth then the difference between rich and poor should either remain constant or it should close which it clearly didn't under the Conservatives.

[Jordy]

Labour benefited from thatchers economic policies and continue to do so. What most people fail to see is that her economic policies have hardly been changed by either Majors, Blairs or Browns government, why is this? It's because they agree with her economic policies, and it's why the economy was doing so well during Labours government.

If Thatcher was such a bad person, I don't think she would of been elevated to the House of Lords, have a statue in the house of commons and might be having a state funeral. It's not just the Conservatives who like her, Labour and Liberal Democrats do too, it's just they're not too vocal about it seeing as they'd lose their core vote if they were to say anything nice about her.

[MrPinkPanther]

Labour benefited from thatchers economic policies and continue to do so. What most people fail to see is that her economic policies have hardly been changed by either Majors, Blairs or Browns government, why is this? It's because they agree with her economic policies, and it's why the economy was doing so well during Labours government.

If Thatcher was such a bad person, I don't think she would of been elevated to the House of Lords, have a statue in the house of commons and might be having a state funeral. It's not just the Conservatives who like her, Labour and Liberal Democrats do too, it's just they're not too vocal about it seeing as they'd lose their core vote if they were to say anything nice about her.

They carried on her prudence but that doesn't mean they carried on her economic policies, it just means they got rid of "tax and spend" in line with becoming a more moderate party. The reason that Labour are considered to have done so well economically is because of lowering unemployment and pulling many families out of poverty through measures like Welfare to work and the Minimum wage (Which the Conservatives were against may I add).

People respect Thatcher but that doesn't mean they like her or her policies, there is a big difference. She led with a Prime Ministerial style and introduced policies with no regard for others. The reason she has been elevated to the Lords is because after leaving office she was no longer in Politics unlike Blair, she was the first female PM and she had managed to win 3 elections in a row, an amazing feat.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Perhaps you should read my post? Year on year the economy grew for over 10 years under Labour, helping everyone. Of course Thatchers argument makes sense but it doesn't apply every time someone tries Economic redistribution, quite the opposite in fact. Under Labour everyone has become richer but especially those who were formally considered to be "poor" because of measures like Welfare to Work and Working families tax credit. (This isn't just speculation, an independent report last week showed this narrowing between Rich and Poor, I can't remember what it was called but it was reported in the Guardian)

The economy grew under Thatcher, infact even when the economy was beyond repairable (in the 70s) she gained office and managed to turn the United Kingdom into a financial centre which now generates most of the wealth for this country. I find it very strange how Labour (who created the mess in the 1970s) never undid any of the Thatcher reforms do you not also find that strange? - sure they managed it wrong and are now going down the route that they did in the 1970s but they never really repealed the Thatcher reforms and why? - because they work.

You would rather the poor be poorer provided the rich were less rich.

As an economy progresses the gap will grow, its just simple economics. What you and people like Simon Hughes prefer is called 'wealth redistribution' which in other words is state theft, you punish those who do well for themselves with tax after tax and sometimes you even take peoples business away from them because they bothered to do some good in life and built a better life for themselves, while at the same time creating jobs for others (normally the poorest).

What gives a government the right to tax success? - absolutely nothing is the answer.

[Jordy]

Poll is auto-closed later this evening I believe, get your last votes in

[jam666]

I really do find it ironic... Labours new advertising campaign is rather silly as the 1980's is when this country prospered and all because of Thatcher, id much rather go back to the 1980's then 1979 and the winter of discontent. The situation now is exactly the same as it was back then. We have a socialist government who cant stop spending and it will be up to the Conservatives to sort this country out and get it moving. "what mrs thatcher did to britain" labour say?, she let millions of people buy their council houses for start!. I am honestly amazed by the ignorence of labour.

People can vote for who they like but in all honesty its utterly pointless voting UKIP, GREEN or any of the smaller partys. UKIP MP's dont even take their seat in the house of commons, they are just one policy partys. However your possibly allowing Labour another 4/5 years in office by not voing Conservative as they are the only real opposition.

I have to laugh when labour announce new policies and especially at alistair darlings performance on TV the other day, come on you have had 13 years to implement your silly policys which no one will benefit from. Out with the old in the new. Vote for change, Vote Conservative!