Do you consider yourself to be a class?

[Apple]

If the class system works on the title of your job as opposed to the salary of your job, would that mean being self employed (e.g owning a business) makes you middle class even if you are making hardly any profit?

[buttons]

oh you'll make profit
most business do because they leech off their employees.
anyway, probably not. class system is stupid, it's based on a lot of things apparently but the labels mean literally nothing. to me, we're all working class but some are just better off. THEN there's the whole 1% that own most of our wealth.

[Apple]

oh you'll make profit
most business do because they leech off their employees.
anyway, probably not. class system is stupid, it's based on a lot of things apparently but the labels mean literally nothing. to me, we're all working class but some are just better off. THEN there's the whole 1% that own most of our wealth.

I really don't get this class system, it's as if everyone has their own opinion about what makes you what class and there are actually no real guidelines.

So for example, say if you had a small business that made around 250k net profit per year (quarter of a million obvs) and you owned it so you are the manager or w/e, does that make you middle class or does it still make you working class because you are working...?

[flatface]

I really don't get this class system, it's as if everyone has their own opinion about what makes you what class and there are actually no real guidelines.

So for example, say if you had a small business that made around 250k net profit per year (quarter of a million obvs) and you owned it so you are the manager or w/e, does that make you middle class or does it still make you working class because you are working...?

Following Jen's view I would assume it would make you middle class because you're working for no one but yourself, especially if you employed people

[Jordy]

No offence but ignore Jen's take on the class system, only Marxist's consider people who work for others as working class. It's really not as black or white as that.

[KyoraStryker]

Before I got into the military, I'd say I was middle-low class (as in, the middle of the low class. Can't get more obvious than that), however, I feel I've moved up to middle class in the few short years I've been in the military.

[Moh]

For this thread to work, we need a fixed definition of the classes

[Dean]

I would say on the border of being lower class, but probably working class.

[Rapidshare]

Lower class...

[Mathew]

I hope that last comment wasn't aimed at me?

Just because your parents work doesn't mean you are working class. Bill Gates works - does that make him working class? Some of my friends could probably be considered "upper class" but I wouldn't say I am at all. But I know my parents also earn a fair bit more than the majority of my friends parents (putting jobs in to perspective etcetera). Hence why I would class myself as middle class.

I don't have anything more to add, but it wasn't aimed at anyone in particular