Thanks to the Conservatives

[Technologic]

Cuts need to be made and in reality only 4-5 ships are being lost, an extra astute class nuclear submarine has been ordered, the current need for aircraft carriers is low as there are still RAF bases in Kuwait and Cyprus. The only really stupid decision imo was the harrier fleet being cut.. Plus Argentina doesn't have the money to launch an attack on the falklands...

[StefanWolves]

Cuts need to be made and in reality only 4-5 ships are being lost, an extra astute class nuclear submarine has been ordered, the current need for aircraft carriers is low as there are still RAF bases in Kuwait and Cyprus. The only really stupid decision imo was the harrier fleet being cut.. Plus Argentina doesn't have the money to launch an attack on the falklands...

Its not just about the Falklands though. We have lots of overseas territory that foreign countries could take, now we don't have any aircraft to operate from our two remaining aircraft carrier, they may aswell be scrapped also (HMS Invincible, HMS Illustrious).

The only time we will have aircraft on aircraft carriers is when the new one's are commissioned in 2018/2020, and they will be fitted with F35 fighter jets(not vertical takeoff as first planned, they will now catapult launched (cause it's cheaper). But we can't go 10 years without aircraft on an aircraft carrier.

What has got under my skin furthermore is that they're talking about having French/foreign navy's aircraft on British aircraft carriers of present and future, which is just laughable.

[FlyingJesus]

Well there's no point in the French keeping them, they don't have any fighters

[StefanWolves]

I presume you mean fighter aircraft? if so, yes they do, even if it is limited.

[Nixt]

The French have one of the largest air forces out of most members of NATO. They have somewhere in the region of 300 fighter aircraft if I remember correctly.

[FlyingJesus]

brb completely missing a joke about French military

[Agnostic Bear]

We do not live in Germany. England has one of the highest rates of assimilation in the world. I think that's fundamentally because none of our ancestors were actually born in England.

Go to bradistan or the area on the other side of town from me, see if the people you're on about are 'assimilating'. The only place in the uk that any sort of immigrant assimilates is scotland.

[immense]

Go to bradistan or the area on the other side of town from me, see if the people you're on about are 'assimilating'. The only place in the uk that any sort of immigrant assimilates is scotland.

What do you suggest - no immigrants? :rolleyes:

[Agnostic Bear]

What do you suggest - no immigrants? :rolleyes:

No I suggest forcing them to learn English, forcing them to integrate with our culture. I'm not a beast. I'm just... you know, patriotic, and don't want to see this country go down the crapper, which is why I hope the Conservative government are re-elected in 2015.

[immense]

Defeats the point of a lot of immigration if you want them to spend years learning English. I don't care about other countries I don't think our immigration policy should ever be strict. Seeing as you're patriotic I'm sure you'll know that England / Britain is made up of numerous nationalities and always has been. It is what makes our country great and one of the things British people should be most proud of.