International Women's Day

[Conservative,]

No I don't agree women should pay more in that situation as the thing is, as you said one week more men could cause accidents the next week more women could cause accidents - it's chance and there's no way anybody can say that being a man makes you cause more accidents than being a woman as there is no scientific evidence that there is anything different about men that makes them less able to control a car.

That would be from the previous year's statistics. I can sort of see where your coming from but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

[HotelUser]

The price for men and woman should be the same, and simply increase dramatically when you cause an accident.

[alexxxxx]

i'd like to see the pure facts including all the averages (ie median insurance pay-out and mean insurance pay-out) plus serious road accidents and minor road accident statistics NOT supplied by insurance companies.

my personal suspicion is that insurance companies might put up their prices up for young men because young men are more eager to drive than women (in my experience).

[Hecktix]

i'd like to see the pure facts including all the averages (ie median insurance pay-out and mean insurance pay-out) plus serious road accidents and minor road accident statistics NOT supplied by insurance companies.

my personal suspicion is that insurance companies might put up their prices up for young men because young men are more eager to drive than women (in my experience).

You are absolutely right Alex, which is why these stats shouldn't be listened to. As I've demonstrated throughout this thread, the statistics are going to be flawed and there is no way you can attribute "causing car accidents" to males - as there's nothing different between the ability of men and women behind the wheel.

[GommeInc]

You are absolutely right Alex, which is why these stats shouldn't be listened to. As I've demonstrated throughout this thread, the statistics are going to be flawed and there is no way you can attribute "causing car accidents" to males - as there's nothing different between the ability of men and women behind the wheel.

There are quite a few interesting articles taking in all these different factors such as Traffic Accident Advice UK. They too share a similar understanding that gender should not play a role and that there are so many statistics about the number of crimes in a male to female ratio. Unfortunately, Insurance companies do not give out their information and the Government have very little jurisdiction when it comes to road accidents due to insurance existing for that very reason to deal with accidents in a tangled web of break down cover, insurance, police and so forth - so any Government Statistics appear to be non-existent.

They do appear to have some results from surveys they have done, but annoyingly they never really post how they survey was undertaken or give the full details of the research. Men drive more than woman so it seems more likely for men to be involved in accidents, rather than men being more likely simply due to the fact they're men - if there were an equal number of men and women drivers in the UK then you'd get a better picture.

The only argument against this does seem to revolve around finding out exactly how many miles and times a woman drive versus a man - because then the insurance could cater for individual uses and IF women drive less than men then they would get cover that reflects this - which could work out cheaper for them, but such a system would be such a waste of money and barely exists. The only insurance companies that tend to care about miles done monthly or yearly are those that insure specific makes such as Ford Insure.

An interesting discussion none the less.

[Catzsy]

I missed this part out;



Yes they do.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...re-engine.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...C-brigade.html

No they haven't - read the headline.

A woman on every fire engine ... the latest demand from the PC brigade

All these comments that you have made are just nonsense:

Today is 'International Women's Day', a ludicrous and patronising day of which militant women with a thorn in their side celebrate their crusade against sexism

This is your opinion only which if true makes you a militant misogynist.

Sorry but you talk complete nonsense as all of the equality Labour luvvie warriors on here do

You are also always making personal remarks about some of us on the forum so perhaps it is about time it was dished back to you.

Of course some women are better than men at firefighting, but on the whole men are better

In body they are yes, they are born (the majority of men) superior to women in that aspect.

Blatent sexism.

Definition of Bigot - English Oxford Dictionary.

person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp. on religion, politics, or race

[Niall!]

Catzsy, I have nothing but respect for you but I have to correct you on one matter.

What he says is true, men are indeed born physically superior to women. We are equal on every other level that matters. It's just the way nature designed us. When Dan says "but on the whole men are better) he is referring to the fact firefighting is a very physical activity and best suited to men. That's not to say a woman can't do the job however.

One other thing I will agree with Dan on however is that "International Womens Day" is completely idiotic. I was joking about being a misogynist before and treat all men and women equal (except for chavs, obviously). But what I thought was a day to appreciate womens rights quickly turned into a feminist march in Belfast which completely defeats the purpose of the whole celebration of equal rights thing. If we had a "Men appreciation day" it would be branded as sexist and some women would go on a rampage.

[JACKTARD]

Don't worry gents, they have this day, the other 364 are ours