Spam Habbo...

[AgnesIO]

Can't they just be posted in Habbo In General? If they're involving discussion it's fine. Habbo threads are rarely and impossible to make pointless as they have a themed point - Habbo. If a thread is boring, it'll sink and disappear. It's one thing Habbox do not need a make system for, because it's done through the interests of members. Better that than put off new members with the lovely red text and passive aggressive PMs I really do believe people are mixing up the words boring, uninteresting and humour with pointless and unnecessary.

A good example of a forum that doesn't do this - ClubHabbo. Granted they're a bit of a mess, but at least their forum structure is as perfect as possible.

But you end up with threads with a screenshot then posts saying 'LOL haha ' - which is pointless posting - and in any other part of this forum you would get told off.

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Can't they just be posted in Habbo In General? If they're involving discussion it's fine. Habbo threads are rarely and impossible to make pointless as they have a themed point - Habbo. If a thread is boring, it'll sink and disappear. It's one thing Habbox do not need a make system for, because it's done through the interests of members. Better that than put off new members with the lovely red text and passive aggressive PMs I really do believe people are mixing up the words boring, uninteresting and humour with pointless and unnecessary.

A good example of a forum that doesn't do this - ClubHabbo. Granted they're a bit of a mess, but at least their forum structure is as perfect as possible.

So perfect HxF is the more successful forum?

[Catzsy]

In the spam forum... There has been a "history of long, successful spam threads in the spam forum". Notice you say threads. So how do you propose to moderate spam threads in Habbo In General as you suggested earlier? You can't disable posting in threads, and there is a history of spam threads so are you suggesting more than one? This is why I suggest just let people post relevant threads in the relevant forums as nature intended. Habbo threads cannot be pointless, they're relevant to Habbo and the Habbo In General forum says quite clearly underneath, that it's for threads that are relevant to Habbo. Which is why e5 is confused and the removal of his thread seems utterly pointless creating this tedious discussion.

No what I said was 'there have been very successful and very long spam threads at Habbox'
I did not say in the spam section. Mostly they have been in the staff forums.

One thing and we've suddenly got a pandemic

They are only suggestions!

Then keep the topics in the Habbo forums. You're forgetting that members do not like red writing and passive aggressive PMs when posting a thread int he wrong place, so if there was a Habbo Spam forum newer members might feel they have done wrong when their threads are randomly moved into a different forum. Spam suggests unwanted or pointless and void of discussion.


The thread that was moved into Spam. It was about Habbo, therefore it goes under a Habbo forum. Habbo In General is sufficient enough. The thread wasn't pointless, it was uninteresting as many people have pointed out so far.

The thread was lacking in substance for discussion. It was a 'chat' thread. It maybe uninteresting to some but not to others. Nobody would move an uninteresting thread to spam providing it provided a platform for discussion. I find some threads uninteresting but it doesn't mean they should be moved to spam. As far as 'red writing and passively agressive pms go' - I am not sure if they are bothered. Moderation like this applies to every forum. In fact I get more pms thanking me for pointing something out than I get rude ones.

It is a terrible example. The KKK thread is where people go to chat. Your suggesting an alternative to a spam forum by making one singular thread. Your suggesting Spam is another word for chatting, when it isn't. A spam thread won't work, because spam comes in different flavours. Members may post funny things they have seen, to stupid things Habbo Staff have done - this would deem one thread completely useless by being too hard to follow. These are discussions, not a conversation like in the KKK thread.

By your reasoning, your suggesting the Spam Forum can be replaced with the KKK thread.

Not at all. What would you say spam is for if not for chatting and generally chilling out?

So your suggesting Habbox create a Habbo Spam forum (stupid name for a forum but lets roll with it) and then put a Spam Thread inside that? It reminds me of that mememe - Yo dawg. I heard you like spam. So I put spam, inside your spam, so you can spam while browsing spam.

No I was suggesting as I said above to put a stickied thread in 'Habbo in General' for spam. If they can't disable post count in a thread then obviously that's a problem.

[GommeInc]

But you end up with threads with a screenshot then posts saying 'LOL haha ' - which is pointless posting - and in any other part of this forum you would get told off.

If only rule A7 existed for such an occassion Hopefully the moderators are capable of using their own discretion and can promote discussion. Perhaps a re-write of the mod system is in order so the red text isn't as passive aggressive? Perhaps a new mod template is in order - Moderator Comment - where moderators can edit the posts of other members with advice rather than an aggressive looking warning. I think the colour some sites I am familiar with use either blue or yellow - neutral, non-threatening colours. Just a thought at least, and as Catzsy said, loads of Habbo users are young and if child psychology taught me anything, it's not to be too aggressive with them

No what I said was 'there have been very successful and very long spam threads at Habbox'
I did not say in the spam section. Mostly they have been in the staff forums.

So completely irrelevant to us normal folk?

They are only suggestions!

The thread was lacking in substance for discussion. It was a 'chat' thread. It maybe uninteresting to some but not to others. Nobody would move an uninteresting thread to spam providing it provided a platform for discussion. I find some threads uninteresting but it doesn't mean they should be moved to spam. As far as 'red writing and passively agressive pms go' - I am not sure if they are bothered. Moderation like this applies to every forum. In fact I get more pms thanking me for pointing something out than I get rude ones.

And it would of sank to the bottom, much like it did in the Spam forum. If it was kept in Habbo in General, it would of sank to the bottom of the forum and not be seen. If people posted, then it's promoting some amount of discussion. It's still relevant to habbo, as the forum quite clearly states

Not at all. What would you say spam is for if not for chatting and generally chilling out?

Well for here you get a dumping ground. But other than that, chat, mucking around, banter, mindless discussion that is going no where and tom foolery. Chat usually means "hey how are you?" threads not "Tom's* got a GF who looks more manly than him", which goes along the lines of banter and Tom Foolery.

*-example of name, not relevant to anyone as far as I am aware.

No I was suggesting as I said above to put a stickied thread in 'Habbo in General' for spam. If they can't disable post count in a thread then obviously that's a problem.

Which is why it won't work And if it did, there's too much to discuss and chat about "Habbo Spam" wise. One thread for funny pictures, pointless discussions etc isn't enough and a Habbo Spam forum is too much as it's untidy and comes off as suggesting anything mildly humourous is forbidden

[AgnesIO]

If only rule A7 existed for such an occassion Hopefully the moderators are capable of using their own discretion and can promote discussion. Perhaps a re-write of the mod system is in order so the red text isn't as passive aggressive? Perhaps a new mod template is in order - Moderator Comment - where moderators can edit the posts of other members with advice rather than an aggressive looking warning. I think the colour some sites I am familiar with use either blue or yellow - neutral, non-threatening colours. Just a thought at least, and as Catzsy said, loads of Habbo users are young and if child psychology taught me anything, it's not to be too aggressive with them

Sadly I don't think moderators get much space for any of that - do what you are told aye

[Catzsy]

If only rule A7 existed for such an occassion Hopefully the moderators are capable of using their own discretion and can promote discussion. Perhaps a re-write of the mod system is in order so the red text isn't as passive aggressive? Perhaps a new mod template is in order - Moderator Comment - where moderators can edit the posts of other members with advice rather than an aggressive looking warning. I think the colour some sites I am familiar with use either blue or yellow - neutral, non-threatening colours. Just a thought at least, and as Catzsy said, loads of Habbo users are young and if child psychology taught me anything, it's not to be too aggressive with them

We don't have complaints about the edits or pms 99% of the time, Gomme. It is pink not red as it's a modwarn. I would like a blue mod warn though! PS.... CH are stricter than we are on pointless etc.

[AgnesIO]

We don't have complaints about the edits or pms 99% of the time, Gomme. It is pink not red as it's a modwarn. I would like a blue mod warn though! PS.... CH are stricter than we are on pointless etc.

Not sure that last bit is true, the content often seen on that forum is appalling - stuff that on here would be stopped. I think the problem with CHF is they are really inconsistent - so the problem isn't that they are stricter/more lenient than HxF, it is more of a case that they give one punishment for one user and another to a different user.

[Catzsy]

Not sure that last bit is true, the content often seen on that forum is appalling - stuff that on here would be stopped. I think the problem with CHF is they are really inconsistent - so the problem isn't that they are stricter/more lenient than HxF, it is more of a case that they give one punishment for one user and another to a different user.

What I meant was that as far as I know they still issue warnings and infractions for minor stuff like pointless, spam, double posting etc where we don't.

[GommeInc]

We don't have complaints about the edits or pms 99% of the time, Gomme. It is pink not red as it's a modwarn. I would like a blue mod warn though! PS.... CH are stricter than we are on pointless etc.

Since when? I usually see them acting their age and enjoying themselves :S

Pink, red... Same thing, the red spectrum (including pink and its variants) are aggressive colours which is why you see them for warnings It might be worth adding another one e.g. [modcomment] where moderators can comment on a members actions for things that do not break the rules, but require special attention. They use them in student forums and a few other forums I have used in the past, or use at the moment. They're quite good, and look good too

[Catzsy]

Since when? I usually see them acting their age and enjoying themselves :S

Pink, red... Same thing, the red spectrum (including pink and its variants) are aggressive colours which is why you see them for warnings It might be worth adding another one e.g. [modcomment] where moderators can comment on a members actions for things that do not break the rules, but require special attention. They use them in student forums and a few other forums I have used in the past, or use at the moment. They're quite good, and look good too

Sounds like a good idea. Have you got an example? Can you think of circumstances it could be used? Maybe we should have traffic light modwarns! LOL

[GommeInc]

Sounds like a good idea. Have you got an example? Can you think of circumstances it could be used? Maybe we should have traffic light modwarns! LOL

I was wondering if you've witnessed times where a warning may seem too harsh or unnecessary. Perhaps for first time offenders? A traffic light system would be nice, but best keep it to yellow and red - green would look a bit odd and would clash horribly with most of the forum skins

What's the law on posting pictures to sum up your thoughts? I've noticed a few times in the past members would be warned for posting pictures with infamous phrases but including no text themselves - would that be a time to use the system? It depends what Habbox has in place for small offenses and huge offenses, like posting gruesome porn or vulgar images could involve just the red warning while YouTube videos which contain swearing, but not obvious enough or offensive enough, could use the amber/yellow warning. I know little about the warning system for Habbox, like what rules require immediate action and what ones are considered mild. Mild ones could possible result in just a quick reminder through PM or no PM at all. The idea is limitless in thought