US Presidential Elections 2012

[xxMATTGxx]

I was actually taking the piss with what I posted but whatever Dan.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I was actually taking the piss with what I posted but whatever Dan.

But you mean it. I've seen it and we've all been guilty of it. We took the piss (rightly so) out of Bush over and over again whilst actually analysing his political actions and policies (like the wars) and we properly criticised him. Obama on the other hand seems to get a free pass despite being behind many gaffes while Romney is constantly brought down over one or two remarks.

Can you imagine Bush getting 83% support in this poll back in 2004? it wouldn't happen.

[Grig]

But you mean it. I've seen it and we've all been guilty of it. We took the piss (rightly so) out of Bush over and over again whilst actually analysing his political actions and policies (like the wars) and we properly criticised him. Obama on the other hand seems to get a free pass.

Can you imagine Bush getting 83% support in this poll back in 2004? it wouldn't happen.

Just to add, the media are also extremely pro-Obama and are at times acting almost like a propaganda force for him Take Letterman for example and his Late Night Shows, he takes the mick out of Romney every night, yet had barely done it for Obama.

Then people start acting like sheep and electing him for his personality. I'm for neither of the two, but I'm simply stating it. It's almost like an Obama cult!

[-:Undertaker:-]

Just to add, the media are also extremely pro-Obama and are at times acting almost like a propaganda force for him Take Letterman for example and his Late Night Shows, he takes the mick out of Romney every night, yet had barely done it for Obama.

Then people start acting like sheep and electing him for his personality. I'm for neither of the two, but I'm simply stating it. It's almost like an Obama cult!

Exactly, it's the same as the BBC over here - on radio and so on you'd constantly hear gags and jokes about George W Bush yet you never hear anything of Obama unless it is praise. Thank God for the internet is all I can say so that some of us can actually find out what's really going on.

[HotelUser]

Exactly, it's the same as the BBC over here - on radio and so on you'd constantly hear gags and jokes about George W Bush yet you never hear anything of Obama unless it is praise. Thank God for the internet is all I can say so that some of us can actually find out what's really going on.

I would assume that's because the political center over there is further to the left than it is in the United States. Here, Fox News is biased towards promoting the Republicans and CNN is more inclined to promote Obama.

Being Canadian, much of our TV is American, and although we have CBC and CTV for news, most Canadians still watch American news stations. There's an old saying that goes along the lines of "America votes. Canada watches". Having watched for months and months I can tell you that I've seen a lot of media bias going in both directions. As an Obama supporter myself I am admittedly disheartened as well by the 2012 re-election campaign because I thought they fought more dirty than in 2008 (that's not to say their Republican counterparts were innocent, either).

Not related to any of those parties I noticed in the poll that you selected Libertarian as one of your options. I know you quite like Ron Paul, but for what reasons do you support the Libertarian party? Would you vote in a Libertarian over a Republican?

[Grig]

I would assume that's because the political center over there is further to the left than it is in the United States. Here, Fox News is biased towards promoting the Republicans and CNN is more inclined to promote Obama.

Being Canadian, much of our TV is American, and although we have CBC and CTV for news, most Canadians still watch American news stations. There's an old saying that goes along the lines of "America votes. Canada watches". Having watched for months and months I can tell you that I've seen a lot of media bias going in both directions. As an Obama supporter myself I am admittedly disheartened as well by the 2012 re-election campaign because I thought they fought more dirty than in 2008 (that's not to say their Republican counterparts were innocent, either).

Not related to any of those parties I noticed in the poll that you selected Libertarian as one of your options. I know you quite like Ron Paul, but for what reasons do you support the Libertarian party? Would you vote in a Libertarian over a Republican?

Fox News is the worst and most discredited news network ever, albeit one of the most popular. However, discounting Fox News and one or two other things, 90% of the media and popular culture in terms or talk shows etc. have favoured Obama.

[Inseriousity.]

I think you'll be waiting a very long time before people vote based on policies rather than personality. The sad thing is the politicians know this, how do you think they get away with it for so long?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Not related to any of those parties I noticed in the poll that you selected Libertarian as one of your options. I know you quite like Ron Paul, but for what reasons do you support the Libertarian party? Would you vote in a Libertarian over a Republican?

For all the reasons I support Ron Paul, Gary Johnson is essentially the same as Ron Paul from foreign policy to drugs, from the Constitution to states rights, to cuts and regulation. I cannot think of one difference between them both.

I loathe the Republican Party in the same way I loathe the Conservative Party - both are the same as the parties they are supposed to be opposing. But as a machine in capturing the Presidency, Ron Paul vying for the GOP nomination in primaries was obviously the best way to go about it. The same cannot be said for the Conservative Party over here in Britannia though, as the system is closed and not as open as the US one is.

Considering Ron came second to Romney in 2012, Rand (being a better politician) has a good shot come 2016.

Would you vote in a Libertarian over a Republican?

I care little for any party, it is the candidate and their policies & record which matter.

I think you'll be waiting a very long time before people vote based on policies rather than personality. The sad thing is the politicians know this, how do you think they get away with it for so long?

In the four years from now until 2016 the Ron Paul camp will have to prepare the stage for Rand Paul. The biggest obstacle to a Rand Paul victory in 2016 will most likely be the likes of Paul Ryan who talk the talk but whose actions don't match rhetoric (unlike Rand).

It can be changed on both sides of the Atlantic, we just have to keep at it.

[FlyingJesus]

For all the reasons I support Ron Paul, Gary Johnson is essentially the same as Ron Paul from foreign policy to drugs, from the Constitution to states rights, to cuts and regulation. I cannot think of one difference between them both.

Gary Johnson has a less annoying accent