I agree. I'm satisfied that Tom, for example, would get on well with Alex as he'd find out for himself that he does genuinely want to improve things but all it takes is a little comment here and there like the one in the first post to undermine management and create splits in the department which is not constructive at all and likely to make things worse. The only way to counteract that would be if someone above stamped down on such behaviour - hence my questioning btw it wasn't totally random - and I've already talked at length about how general management are incapable of doing that so yes I agree that this application system could be used as an underhanded way to get rid of managers they're incapable of firing themselves. I think there's a difference between disagreeing with a manager and not having faith in their abilities and that it's fine to fire someone for the latter - for example, I fired Logan as HxL manager not because he wasn't doing no work but because I had no confidence that he'd get the department out of the slump it was in - but Matt just prefers to bide his time and wait for them to leave rather than getting rid of them himself.









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