Abuse: Parents smacking children.

[karter]

yes that's a chance that could happen . but you aren't hurting the child with a spank. ( which is less than a hit) you spank them on the bum.


but if your spanking your child and its turning to you beating the kid later on them you aren't a fit parent

Yeah that's the point isn't it. Some people are not fit parents so encouraging things like spanking could trigger abuse

[!x!dude!x!2]

Yeah that's the point isn't it. Some people are not fit parents so encouraging things like spanking could trigger abuse

i'm not encouraging it . ofc im not going to go out in a rage and abuse my child
i'm going to spank my child on the bum and say " you don't do that " like my mom did to me when i was a kid and it worked
and if people abusing their kid then that kid needs to be removed

[Thomas.]

so what you're saying here is that as long as your kid says sorry they will get it back . that doesn't teach anything. you're going to take away a toy and your kid will just say sorry and you will give it back. and your kid will keep doing the same thing over and over.
And yes i have to admit you have some very good ideas there.

This is alot better than smacking children.

[!x!dude!x!2]

This is alot better than smacking children.

but they wouldn't learn..

[Lewis]

but they wouldn't learn..

I don't think one person has said as soon as the child says sorry they'll give it back. This is a rough idea how it'd work for a 7 year old+ for me:

The kid misbehaves. Depending on how serious, it may just be a verbal warning to begin with.
Next I take their thing away for a few days. After the few days are up, they don't get it back until I hear a sincere apology.
If it's committed again, the time it's taken away doubles or more. So, say 6 days. Then after it's up, they don't get it back until I hear a sincere apology.
The first time you might take one thing. The next time two things. The next take four things off them. And just let it build up until they have NOTHING and are forced
to wait the time and apologize.

Also, the same rules above apply with grounding them. (keeping them inside away from friends and so forth.)

Eventually that time will get up to over a month. They'll stop.

[!x!dude!x!2]

I don't think one person has said as soon as the child says sorry they'll give it back. This is a rough idea how it'd work for a 7 year old+ for me:

The kid misbehaves. Depending on how serious, it may just be a verbal warning to begin with.
Next I take their thing away for a few days. After the few days are up, they don't get it back until I hear a sincere apology.
If it's committed again, the time it's taken away doubles or more. So, say 6 days. Then after it's up, they don't get it back until I hear a sincere apology.
The first time you might take one thing. The next time two things. The next take four things off them. And just let it build up until they have NOTHING and are forced
to wait the time and apologize.

Also, the same rules above apply with grounding them. (keeping them inside away from friends and so forth.)

Eventually that time will get up to over a month. They'll stop.

grounding. where they sit in their room. for about an hour where all the toys mostly are? . sorry i just think grounding are stupid . they never worked on me when i was little. but yes once you take everything from them. what do you expect your kid to do

[Lewis]

grounding. where they sit in their room. for about an hour where all the toys mostly are? . sorry i just think grounding are stupid . they never worked on me when i was little. but yes once you take everything from them. what do you expect your kid to do

Clearly you have not read all my posts properly. What do I expect the kid to do? Apologize eventually - and be sincere about it, which they will!

[!x!dude!x!2]

Clearly you have not read my post, re-read it and then come up with a better reply.

your grounding rule is just same thing as taking the toys away but adding on that they cant go out side . so you think the child will just sit in its room all day ?

[Lewis]

your grounding rule is just same thing as taking the toys away but adding on that they cant go out side . so you think the child will just sit in its room all day ?

Yes. Not everything will be taken away, but the more they do, the more is taken away and the longer it is for. Eventually they'll get bored, come to understanding the wrong they did and realize the adult is in charge. They will apologize and mean the apology, no matter how long it takes.

And they don't have to stay in their room, as long as they aren't doing anything to entertain themselves within the house... With limits. Wouldn't matter if the child was playing with a deck of cards on their own.

If they try to get out of the house, I'd personally go after them. If they refuse to come back, it's just the longer the punishment will last --- and eventually, if extremely necessary, you can get the police to have a word with them and sort them out.

[!x!dude!x!2]

Yes. Not everything will be taken away, but the more they do, the more is taken away and the longer it is for. Eventually they'll get bored, come to understanding the wrong they did and realize the adult is in charge. They will apologize and mean the apology, no matter how long it takes.

And they don't have to stay in their room, as long as they aren't doing anything to entertain themselves within the house... With limits. Wouldn't matter if the child was playing with a deck of cards on their own.

If they try to get out of the house, I'd personally go after them. If they refuse to come back, it's just the longer the punishment will last --- and eventually, if extremely necessary, you can get the police to have a word with them and sort them out.

tbh i am injoying this debate . i love debating and this really fun

OT.

Not everything will be taken away, but the more they do, the more is taken away and the longer it is for. Eventually they'll get bored,

That could take days. there would have to be a better solution than that . because i do now that parents buy their kid every single toy

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