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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidLuck. View Post
    I have a question. How many guns have actually been taken on board after all these post 9/11 laws?

    Because if pilots have guns, then it makes it so much easier for someone else to get hold of those guns..

    About the thread topic itself, she was not ''trolling'', she was harassing.. Due to the fact that she is 14, so a minor, they MAYBE took it a little bit to far, but a good investigation so she can still fear the consequences of her stupidity wouldn't warm anyone.
    How?

    They're in a locked cockpit which only flight crew can access, you can't just randomly walk into the flight pit and ask for their gun..

    I don't know if they are even armed, but aren't there flight marshals on most flights now? or did I take too much out of Non-Stop movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    How?

    They're in a locked cockpit which only flight crew can access, you can't just randomly walk into the flight pit and ask for their gun..

    I don't know if they are even armed, but aren't there flight marshals on most flights now? or did I take too much out of Non-Stop movie
    But if they're just going to be locked away for the whole flight, what's the point in having them for safety in the first place?

    Someone said earlier that it's more dangerous to have guns on planes that to not and I agree with them really.

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    There's rarely any air marshalls on flights from the UK. I think it's a US thing.

    On 9/11, the USA had 33 air marshalls, in August 2013, it stands at 4,000, by 2019 it will stand at 1,200, and by 2024 it will be just 500, so they're phasing it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    There's rarely any air marshalls on flights from the UK. I think it's a US thing.

    On 9/11, the USA had 33 air marshalls, in August 2013, it stands at 4,000, by 2019 it will stand at 1,200, and by 2024 it will be just 500, so they're phasing it out.
    where are you getting this info from

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    Also, in the US, air marshalls lead to 4.2 arrests per year, meaning at the cost of the current program, it costs about $200 million per arrest. Probably why it's been phased out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    How?

    They're in a locked cockpit which only flight crew can access, you can't just randomly walk into the flight pit and ask for their gun..

    I don't know if they are even armed, but aren't there flight marshals on most flights now? or did I take too much out of Non-Stop movie
    Yes and if there is ever a need to use the guns and the pilot comes outside with it, I'm sure someone would find a distraction to manage to take the gun away from him. And again this comes back to my question.

    How many guns have been taken on board ever since all the post 9/11 security measures??

    If the answer is none then why was the need of guns in the cockpit even analyzed? S:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    Also, in the US, air marshalls lead to 4.2 arrests per year, meaning at the cost of the current program, it costs about $200 million per arrest. Probably why it's been phased out.
    And do you know what are the arrests for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    where are you getting this info from
    33 air marshals on 9/11: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3020570.stm
    Marshals being cut: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/25/us/air-marshals-cut/

    Seems the numbers in 2019/2024 aren't reliable, my bad. But offices around the country are being scrapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidLuck. View Post
    Yes and if there is ever a need to use the guns and the pilot comes outside with it, I'm sure someone would find a distraction to manage to take the gun away from him. And again this comes back to my question.

    How many guns have been taken on board ever since all the post 9/11 security measures??

    If the answer is none then why was the need of guns in the cockpit even analyzed? S:

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    And do you know what are the arrests for?
    From what I've read, the air marshals in the US have only opened fire once on a plane, and that was when it was on the ground boarding, not during flight. I can't find any examples of air marshals needing to open fire during a flight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    From what I've read, the air marshals in the US have only opened fire once on a plane, and that was when it was on the ground boarding, not during flight. I can't find any examples of air marshals needing to open fire during a flight.
    Do you not have the reason why though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidLuck. View Post
    Do you not have the reason why though?
    They opened fire in this particular incident because the guy had a row with his wife, so he wanted to abandon the flight. The flight attendant said he couldn't leave, so he said he had a bomb. He was shot 11 times when he was on the boarding bridge after exiting the plane. The guy suffered from a mental illness, and apparently the flight marshall knew this beforehand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    They opened fire in this particular incident because the guy had a row with his wife, so he wanted to abandon the flight. The flight attendant said he couldn't leave, so he said he had a bomb. He was shot 11 times when he was on the boarding bridge after exiting the plane. The guy suffered from a mental illness, and apparently the flight marshall knew this beforehand.
    Shot to death??

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