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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don
    Doesn't make it acceptable to target an entire group of people.
    So we shouldn't talk about high crime rates among Romanian nationals in London then as it is 'targeting' a group of people?

    And we shouldn't talk about mass immigration which depresses wages as it is 'targeting' a group of people?

    And we shouldn't talk about EU freedom of movement which is causing a housing crisis as it is 'targeting'?

    In other words, what you and the politicians really want is for the great unwashed to shut up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    ZzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzzzz.
    Sorry, does logical argument bore you?

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    No no, nothing at all... except the fact that large numbers have come in that we have never seen on such a scale this large before. Nope.

    And as for what they say, actually if you have any sort of comprehension of why numbers are an issue it is because if you allow such numbers to come in then they do not integrate and cause community tensions as cultural ghettos are formed. It's happened in one of the northern cities of one of those ministers (I forget which one) where there has been tension between Pakistani migrants and Polish migrants.

    Very distinct groups living next to one another who don't integrate = trouble ahead.
    Are you seriously suggesting that in a decade all that's changed socially in the UK is the number of immigrants? And no, you don't get to make up what you think they're saying when they aren't saying it. You try this a lot, and it's just fiction

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    So Blunket and thus Labour are racists then?
    Blunkett's statement that the Roma will cause trouble is racist, yes. You seem to believe that I can only think one person is racist at a time for some reason

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    Actually it is. You've said time and time again that integration doesn't actually matter and that if people want to speak in their own languages - and as many people want to come - then you have no problem with that. Wy not answer some questions....
    This is actually hilarious. You make a false claim about my views (because obviously you know me better than I know me) and then when I correct you you dismiss it and make up even more nonsense. You've responded to me saying that capitalism works fine by talking about a centralised welfare state, to which I quite rightly stated that that's nothing to do with what I'd written, and your response is "actually it is" followed by yet another completely different topic. Ridiculous, and you do it all the time just like Farage did in this interview because you don't have proper responses to the actual conversation that's happening. You've literally rid the thread of its original intention through talking utter **** about other subjects that were never raised

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Do numbers effect how easily migrants integrate into a country? yes/no
    Does language have a huge place in a community and a nation in terms of culture? yes/no
    Should immigrants who come to this country be expected to integrate with this country? yes/no
    Should the British government have the ability to control the borders to Europe? yes/no
    No, numbers are an abstract feature of calculation and shouting SEVEN will not affect immigration
    Yes
    With the laws, of course. Forcing "culture", no
    Not if it contravenes the laws put in place by the collective that they chose to be a part of

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    If the Roma are causing high crime rates then they should be pointed out too. Call them Roma, Romanian nationals or a race - I don't give a damn. We have a right to protect our borders from groups which have high crime rates because it's the people in this country who will suffer at your stupidity for letting absolutely everybody in.
    Again not the point that was being made. You simultaneously claim that it's the Roma that cause problems, that they're a tiny minority of the whole Romanian population (and obviously an even smaller minority of immigrants to the UK therefore), and that Romanian immigration is causing huge swathes of crime. You're not making any sense whatsoever and then you have the audacity to call others stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Wrong, the favourited tab lists in order of popularity as does the DM and Telegraph.

    But whatever, point being - majority who have watched judging by comments back Farage.
    Oh my god this is not difficult - if a comment is posted and gets 30 likes, it will feature higher than one with 2 likes even if there's a response to the latter that has 60 likes, because only the likes on the main comment get rated. Quality not quantity anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    When they're hugely an overepresentation of a smallish population in comparison to the population of the UK as a whole then we should worry yes. Indeed, those who live in areas where these groups congregate have a huge reason to worry - but not you in your middle class, beachside town.
    Cool, I'm not allowed to discuss certain things because of where I live. For someone who claims to hate big government you sure do like placing restrictions on people based on area
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