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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    He has done both but the female video was posted first. If the male video was posted alone then the scales would hve been tipped much further the opposite way. Men are allowed to be sexual objects, women are not...


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    no i completely disagree, there would have been the exact same reaction had he uploaded the men being 'assaulted' first

    the reaction by some was slightly over the top yeah, but if someone came up to me in the street and pinched my ass not once but TWICE for a 'prank' i'd have no problem telling them where to go and i would be pissed off

    like i said in the other thread, the shouting and cat calling/sexual remarks dont bother me, but if you touch my ass for a prank video you can **** right off. nobody is making this about womens rights, it's about an individual being inappropriately touched for no damn reason

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    nah I think if it was a guy being assaulted he would have got nowhere the amount of comments regarding sexual abuse (if any).

    At worst he'd get called gay.

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    Did an article inspired by this thread earlier! Click here to read it x

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    Agree with this almost entirely.



    He's a vile piece of dirt for slightly inappropriately touching people? It's not like he's ruined their lives by any means. Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill.
    He has gone around touching people inappropriately. Sexual abuse is a serious issue, and this fool (a so-called role model to many) thinks it is acceptable to do this, then others will think the same. Of course, this is not necessarily sexual abuse (it is assault though), but you start with this, and then move on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Payasam View Post
    He has gone around touching people inappropriately. Sexual abuse is a serious issue, and this fool (a so-called role model to many) thinks it is acceptable to do this, then others will think the same. Of course, this is not necessarily sexual abuse (it is assault though), but you start with this, and then move on.
    If anyone had a problem with it then they should report him, end of. As far as I'm concerned, this isn't for anyone else to get particularly worked up over and start some demonising of him as nothing comes from doing so. It should be left for the courts (if someone reported him) and he would get sentenced as they see fit. It's not for you or me to try and throw the law around because, let's be honest, neither of us know much about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    If anyone had a problem with it then they should report him, end of. As far as I'm concerned, this isn't for anyone else to get particularly worked up over and start some demonising of him as nothing comes from doing so. It should be left for the courts (if someone reported him) and he would get sentenced as they see fit. It's not for you or me to try and throw the law around because, let's be honest, neither of us know much about it.
    By the same logic if he raped a random girl in the street, it's not for anyone else to get annoyed or start demonising him over it?

    I disagree completely with your post, if someone does something stupid people will reply as they see fit, that's why comments are there as well as the like/dislike system on YouTube, and the ability to report videos and have them removed (as this has done)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    By the same logic if he raped a random girl in the street, it's not for anyone else to get annoyed or start demonising him over it?

    I disagree completely with your post, if someone does something stupid people will reply as they see fit, that's why comments are there as well as the like/dislike system on YouTube, and the ability to report videos and have them removed (as this has done)
    Please read my post as I only use that for this particular example .
    However, I still think demonising someone too much is bad thing as it clouds judgement. For example, when Jimmy Saville was convincted, there were a few "celebrity" cases not long after and a lot of people just instantly assumed they were guilty. Basically, there's a point where it just becomes too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    If anyone had a problem with it then they should report him, end of. As far as I'm concerned, this isn't for anyone else to get particularly worked up over and start some demonising of him as nothing comes from doing so. It should be left for the courts (if someone reported him) and he would get sentenced as they see fit. It's not for you or me to try and throw the law around because, let's be honest, neither of us know much about it.
    He is a youtube 'celebrity', and I think we are therefore all entitled to comment on his content whether good or bad. It comes as part of the job.

    If I can say he does wonderful work and he is a very kind, loving person then I am also entitled to say his work is terrible and that he is a despicable, vile person.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Payasam View Post
    He is a youtube 'celebrity', and I think we are therefore all entitled to comment on his content whether good or bad. It comes as part of the job.

    If I can say he does wonderful work and he is a very kind, loving person then I am also entitled to say his work is terrible and that he is a despicable, vile person.
    This isn't really my main response, but commenting on his content isn't the same as commenting on him as a person. A ******** can produce good content and a wonderful person can produce crap content.

    My point isn't that you should have no opinion whatsoever, just stop making it out more than it is/might actually be.

    I should point out also that I have never watched any of his videos before and I only heard his name in passing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    This isn't really my main response, but commenting on his content isn't the same as commenting on him as a person. A ******** can produce good content and a wonderful person can produce crap content.

    My point isn't that you should have no opinion whatsoever, just stop making it out more than it is/might actually be.

    I should point out also that I have never watched any of his videos before and I only heard his name in passing.
    I looked into him more as this came up, and made my judgement based on that. He doesn't exactly have a stellar record before now, also an ex-contestant on Big Brother (the thing that started his fame crawl).

    I feel, as others do, entitled to comment on him both as a person and his content (his content ultimately influenced by him as a person), and shall continue to do so.


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