Gay play comments - Police question father

[lawrawrrr]

There's more than one opposing view. Where would you draw the line? Would you invite ISIS for an assembly the week after one about terrorism threats? Because that's an opposing view, although an extreme example.


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[-:Undertaker:-]

There's more than one opposing view. Where would you draw the line? Would you invite ISIS for an assembly the week after one about terrorism threats? Because that's an opposing view, although an extreme example.

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Nope, there's debate within reasonable boundaries which doesn't call for violence ofc. C4M for example simply oppose gay marriage as they believe marriage is one man + one woman. Stonewall thinks differently. Both are widely-held views in the UK.

A lot of people on your side of the argument often confuse any opposition to LBGT issues to groups like Westboro Baptist Church. That's just an extreme.

[David]

You know what will be funny for everyone? Re-setting your post count to 0.

what do you call an undertaker with 0 post count

[lawrawrrr]

again, apart from the time element, I do kind of agree. I don't really think someone coming into a school spouting hate speech for gay people for the sake of it or being racist is a good example for children though.

So back to the actual topic, what about plays? I assume the idea of this play was to make the idea of being gay OK to pupils, so putting on a production of Romeo and Juliet the following week would be the logical assumption here, right? Except straight people don't need to be told they're OK as they are accepted in every walk of life.


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[-:Undertaker:-]

again, apart from the time element, I do kind of agree. I don't really think someone coming into a school spouting hate speech for gay people for the sake of it or being racist is a good example for children though.

But like I said opposition to gay marriage isn't based on hate. For some like Westboro it may be, but most simply disagree for other reasons.

So back to the actual topic, what about plays? I assume the idea of this play was to make the idea of being gay OK to pupils, so putting on a production of Romeo and Juliet the following week would be the logical assumption here, right? Except straight people don't need to be told they're OK as they are accepted in every walk of life.

Indeed however children shouldn't be forced to take part and parents should be informed of any sensitive issues and allowed choice. Gay relationships still remain a divisive issue outside of north London for moral and social reasons so there's never going to be everybody going along with it.

[lawrawrrr]

But like I said opposition to gay marriage isn't based on hate. For some like Westboro it may be, but most simply disagree for other reasons.



Indeed however children shouldn't be forced to take part and parents should be informed of any sensitive issues and allowed choice. Gay relationships still remain a divisive issue outside of north London for moral and social reasons so there's never going to be everybody going along with it.

To the last sentence - what?!?!? Where is this from? Wherever you go there are going to be people pro and con for almost everything.

I understand why people have a problem with these things but I still don't understand why they can't keep it to themselves and let the people in the minority live their lives? As the UK government treats them as equals, shouldn't its citizens extend the same civility?

I don't like certain people because of their views or things they do (whether by choice or not) but I wouldn't stop them from doing something or take myself or my children out of that situation just because they were there. Like you said it's good for children to have a rounded education and make their own decisions, removing them from situations where they can learn and interact with people unlike them doesn't give them the opportunity to, and just puts blinkers on them to this "perfect" world


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[-:Undertaker:-]

To the last sentence - what?!?!? Where is this from? Wherever you go there are going to be people pro and con for almost everything.

I understand why people have a problem with these things but I still don't understand why they can't keep it to themselves and let the people in the minority live their lives? As the UK government treats them as equals, shouldn't its citizens extend the same civility?

Indeed there are views for everything but gay marriage and related issues remain controversial among huge sections of the population as demonstrated in the United States for example after gay marriage was defeated in multiple votes on the issue. In social terms, it is still controversial to many people and people ought to be respectful of that and if they disagree they are free to debate it: but shutting down opinions is sinister.

I myself was waivering on the homosexuality/gay marriage issue a few months back after a lot of thinking about it but I have reverted back to my original position. It's stories such as this and the denial of the other side of the argument being given space that make me think I was right in doing so.

I don't like certain people because of their views or things they do (whether by choice or not) but I wouldn't stop them from doing something or take myself or my children out of that situation just because they were there. Like you said it's good for children to have a rounded education and make their own decisions, removing them from situations where they can learn and interact with people unlike them doesn't give them the opportunity to, and just puts blinkers on them to this "perfect" world

There's a difference though between teaching it as a fact and promoting it, which is what a play for instance does.

[lawrawrrr]

Well it is fact? I really don't get it :/ the play is a topical arts piece which tackles a popular talking point at the moment. Why should it be removed from performances at school because some of the country disagrees? You wouldn't stop plays with POC in them because some of the country doesn't believe they should have equal rights so what's the difference?

Well I assume you wouldn't stop that...


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[Empired]

Well it is fact? I really don't get it :/ the play is a topical arts piece which tackles a popular talking point at the moment. Why should it be removed from performances at school because some of the country disagrees? You wouldn't stop plays with POC in them because some of the country doesn't believe they should have equal rights so what's the difference?

Well I assume you wouldn't stop that...


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Don't be silly laura, Dan is exactly right. Don't you know that the gay community is currently recruiting?? And for a limited time only they're offering £5 off vouchers for John Lewis if you go and see their propaganda plays and give them your email at the end

[lawrawrrr]

Don't be silly laura, Dan is exactly right. Don't you know that the gay community is currently recruiting?? And for a limited time only they're offering £5 off vouchers for John Lewis if you go and see their propaganda plays and give them your email at the end

i would so take that offer


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