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    i remember when that batman cinema shooting happened and people were like IF ONLY WE WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE GUNS IN THERE WE COULD HAVE STOPPED HIM

    people actually wished they were allowed to bring a gun into a dark crowded cinema to defend themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
    i remember when that batman cinema shooting happened and people were like IF ONLY WE WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE GUNS IN THERE WE COULD HAVE STOPPED HIM

    people actually wished they were allowed to bring a gun into a dark crowded cinema to defend themselves
    'Tis my reasoning and what I'm trying to stress!

    Take for instance a random shooter walking in a crowd of people. No one has a gun. Plenty of them die if they didn't escape. Say that just ONE person had a gun and managed to take the attacker down. A lot less people die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landon View Post
    Conceal carry a pistol. Plenty do it here.
    Pistol ain't gonna help you if someone wants to snipe you?

    Lets carry an arsenal of weapony in the back of the car, just in case you know. Better safe than sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landon View Post
    'Tis my reasoning and what I'm trying to stress!

    Take for instance a random shooter walking in a crowd of people. No one has a gun. Plenty of them die if they didn't escape. Say that just ONE person had a gun and managed to take the attacker down. A lot less people die.
    and you think having people armed isn't going to cause an issue with gun crimes?

    what are the crime rates of UK vs US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    You would be arrested and charged, you are not allowed to use force that is disproportionate to the danger you are faced, i.e. if someone punches you and you stab them you will be charged. There's a line between getting a black eye and fatal injury.
    not sure if ignoring or missed

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    Pistol ain't gonna help you if someone wants to snipe you?
    It certainly is not. But I'm not concerned about people carrying snipers at least where I live, maybe you are since you seem pretty passionate about making that example, but a pistol would be the best option for me. Going to be a lot more protected by simply carrying a pistol than nothing at all.

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    you seem to have missed half of my post?

    not sure what your definition of passionate is but okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    you seem to have missed half of my post?.
    and you think having people armed isn't going to cause an issue with gun crimes?
    Yeah. One of the reasons we have the larger shootings is because people are not armed. People end up dying because they are outnumbered. 1 shooter to how ever many unarmed people.

    That's how it will be in the UK, you watch. Shooting by one person to a large crowd of unarmed citizens? Loads of people will die. It's only logical to allow people to carry a weapon for their own defense. Neutralize the attacker in a quick and speedy manner. Save lives.

    Again. Ban all guns and see how it works out especially in the US where guns have been around since the beginning. Chaos. Lots of people will die. Why? There's no way to take out the attacker while the cops are responding. And oh, I almost forgot. Most of the liberals don't even want the cops to have a weapon. Idiotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landon View Post
    Lol then your chances of dying increase.
    Flat out lie. It's very well documented that people who carry weapons are hugely more likely to be involved in street fights of all types - essentially, carrying a weapon puts you at MORE risk. Especially the case if you're not as confident or proficient as your attacker, who is likely to be able to overpower you and use your own weapon against you

    Quote Originally Posted by Landon View Post
    Yeah. One of the reasons we have the larger shootings is because people are not armed
    Well no, the ENTIRE reason there are shootings is because there are guns lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Flat out lie. It's very well documented that people who carry weapons are hugely more likely to be involved in street fights of all types - essentially, carrying a weapon puts you at MORE risk. Especially the case if you're not as confident or proficient as your attacker, who is likely to be able to overpower you and use your own weapon against you
    Yeah if you are a thug... Conceal it. No one will ever know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landon View Post
    Yeah. One of the reasons we have the larger shootings is because people are not armed. People end up dying because they are outnumbered. 1 shooter to how ever many unarmed people.

    That's how it will be in the UK, you watch. Shooting by one person to a large crowd of unarmed citizens? Loads of people will die. It's only logical to allow people to carry a weapon for their own defense. Neutralize the attacker in a quick and speedy manner. Save lives.

    Again. Ban all guns and see how it works out especially in the US where guns have been around since the beginning. Chaos. Lots of people will die. Why? There's no way to take out the attacker while the cops are responding. And oh, I almost forgot. Most of the liberals don't even want the cops to have a weapon. Idiotic.
    No, one of the reasons you have a lot more shootings than other countries like the UK is because anyone and their nan can go buy a gun legally and use this to kill whoever they want. People end up dying because the perpetrator has legally purchased a weapon capable of mass killing.

    No, the UK won't legalise guns as that would be idiotic and would lead to much higher gun crime rate.

    That's how it is in the USA anyway? one person shoots many people with a legally purchased gun and many people die. It's illogical to give the mass populace access to a gun to defend themselves against the extremely unlikely case in which they're confronted by a criminal with the intent to kill with a gun.

    What are the stats for gun crimes in USA vs UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landon View Post
    Yeah if you are a thug... Conceal it. No one will ever know.
    You missed half his post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Flat out lie. It's very well documented that people who carry weapons are hugely more likely to be involved in street fights of all types - essentially, carrying a weapon puts you at MORE risk. Especially the case if you're not as confident or proficient as your attacker, who is likely to be able to overpower you and use your own weapon against you



    Well no, the ENTIRE reason there are shootings is because there are guns lol
    See, this was my point, if there are a lot of people who are armed with weapons there is more likely to be more crime because they are armed. I get the thing about protection though I'm just not 100% sure what your point is.








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