Germany imposes restrictions on unvaccinated people

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Indias population is 10x that of UK, death number is lower than UK so your argument of life expectancy and younger population is null and void.

Well no that supports my argument doesn't it that the Indian population is a lot younger and therefore less affected by Covid-19.

"Indians do not critically queston government policy" hahaha oh my God, don't comment on something you have zero clue about. I am a British Indian, I visit India regularly, my extended family all live in India, I know exactly how the public there behave and believe me, every move, law, action is put under the microscope not just by the media and the opposition, but by the people.

The India you are quoting is of 20-30 years ago. There is a reason why the country is booming, and why the UK is ... well sinking.

I have been to India and I have seen the disabled literally drag themselves along a pavement outside religiously divided slums. Don't talk nonsense.

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Wearing a mask and washing hands is not a restriction, it is good hygiene. I assume you are probably one of those people who refuses to wash their hands after having a shit because REBEL.

Wearing a mask I personally find intolerable and pointless in terms of my health and that of society, so therefore I do not do it. As for washing hands, I agree with you that not washing hands is disgusting but I thought that long before Covid-19. You can be in favour and advocate things without making it the law to do so.

If someone wants to wear a mask, knock yourself out. If someone doesn't want to wash their hands, in my view that's disgusting but still their right to do so.

[Seatherny]

Well no that supports my argument doesn't it that the Indian population is a lot younger and therefore less affected by Covid-19.



I have been to India and I have seen the disabled literally drag themselves along a pavement outside religiously divided slums. Don't talk nonsense.

You have been to India once, I lived there for half my life and visit every few months.

Dont try and lecture me on India. I have seen homeless people die of death in the cold, does that mean the British people "do not critically question government policy and instead vote along caste and religious lines"? Because I do not see how a country with 80m population having homeless people dying every night due to the cold is any better to a few poor person you saw in a country with 1bn+ population? A country which the UK robbed but yet still has homeless people, people claiming benefits, people struggling to put food on the table? People who the PM has to teach basic hand washing?

The difference in the two countries slums is that since 1970, UK started bulldozing slums and putting people in houses so the world did not see these poor people. Yet more people are becoming poor hence the housing shortage and homeless people dying every day in UK. India is only starting to help them now as we finally have a PM who is not corrupt. I employ 200 people in India, I visit regularly, I lived there for half my life, my wife lived there for 30 years, don't try and teach me about India.

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As if to prove my point that he views things in a very strange way to put it kindly, Saurav is now trying to equate poverty in Britain with that of India.

You have been to India once, I lived there for half my life and visit every few months.

Dont try and lecture me on India. I have seen homeless people die of death in the cold, does that mean the British people "do not critically question government policy and instead vote along caste and religious lines"? Because I do not see how a country with 80m population having homeless people dying every night due to the cold is any better to a few poor person you saw in a country with 1bn+ population? A country which the UK robbed but yet still has homeless people, people claiming benefits, people struggling to put food on the table? People who the PM has to teach basic hand washing?

Homelessness in Britain is mainly caused by drugs and alcohol addiction/misuse, or a distrust of authorities, which makes many of those homeless unwilling to accept long term help or shelter. Of course it is a problem, and yes sadly people do die from the cold now and again but it is nothing compared to the grinding poverty I saw in India.

I have never seen in Britain for example mothers and fathers cut off the limbs of their own children to scar them for life in order to earn begging money.

I employ 200 people in India, I visit regularly, I lived there for half my life, my wife lived there for 30 years, don't try and teach me about India.

Must be visiting the nice parts, certainly doesn't reflect the parts of Bombay I visited with unimaginable poverty.

[Seatherny]

Wearing a mask I personally find intolerable and pointless in terms of my health and that of society, so therefore I do not do it. As for washing hands, I agree with you that not washing hands is disgusting but I thought that long before Covid-19. You can be in favour and advocate things without making it the law to do so.

If someone wants to wear a mask, knock yourself out. If someone doesn't want to wash their hands, in my view that's disgusting but still their right to do so.

"Wearing a mask I personally find... pointless"... well almost every expert scientist disagrees with you and scientific research has proved it helps to reduce the spread of these viruses. This alone proves how little your knowledge on basic common sense things are and how unwilling you are to listen to experts or scientific facts. Therefore, it is pointless debating with someone who is so stupid, that if I held a apple in my hand, and asked which fruit I am holding, you will say Orange just to be a rebel because you think it is so cool. People like you are a waste of time. Goodbye.

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"Wearing a mask I personally find... pointless"... well almost every expert scientist disagrees with you and scientific research has proved it helps to reduce the spread of these viruses. This alone proves how little your knowledge on basic common sense things are and how unwilling you are to listen to experts or scientific facts. Therefore, it is pointless debating with someone who is so stupid, that if I held a apple in my hand, and asked which fruit I am holding, you will say Orange just to be a rebel because you think it is so cool. People like you are a waste of time. Goodbye.

Scientists say a lot of things, at the start of this crisis the experts said masks made very little difference until suddenly they did not, and scientists have also come up with some very peculiar modelling of transmission and death rates which have been proven completely and utterly false. I don't live my life by what Matt Hancock, Sajid Javid and Chris Whitty have to say, I make my own judgements because I live in a free society and I have critical thinking skills in which I treat whatever the government tells me with great scepticism. You're free to disagree with me but that's where your power ends, in disagreement. Not enforcement or compulsion.

Worth remembering that at almost every single stage of the Covid crisis the modelling of the virus's growth has been wrong. Not just marginally wrong, but so spectacularly wrong as to have minimal practical utility for policy making.

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) December 11, 2021

That's why, last Christmas and New Year I was mixing with family having a party while Boris Johnson and his experts told you not to... but then went and did it themselves.

[Seatherny]

As if to prove my point that he views things in a very strange way to put it kindly, Saurav is now trying to equate poverty in Britain with that of India.



Homelessness in Britain is mainly caused by drugs and alcohol addiction/misuse, or a distrust of authorities, which makes many of those homeless unwilling to accept long term help or shelter. Of course it is a problem, and yes sadly people do die from the cold now and again but it is nothing compared to the grinding poverty I saw in India.

I have never seen in Britain for example mothers and fathers cut off the limbs of their own children to scar them for life in order to earn begging money.



Must be visiting the nice parts, certainly doesn't reflect the parts of Bombay I visited with unimaginable poverty.

As I said, comparing India of years ago to today is pointless. If I take a bus tour of tourists to only poor parts of UK, they will also have a biased view. There are more "poor" people in the UK than in India. The only difference is the 10x population and the UK government putting these "poor" people in houses and feeding them with my tax money. Just because the government hides the poverty, doesn't mean UK isn't filled with poverty. There is a reason why Marcus Rashford has to raise money to feed kids, because of poverty in UK.

The cutting off limbs you are talking about, I have hardly seen this, but hey ho, if you see one person with a missing limb, all Indians must be doing this. Glad they are not at least murdering their kids for God knows what reason like British parents/carers Thomas Hughes and Emma Tustin did. I would never see this in India. You must be visiting or living only in nice parts of UK as London is full of rapists and other parts are filled with child murderers ... oh wait! You can't generalise the whole country based on a few lunatics. But you don't mind doing this do you? So lets now say UK is full of rapists and child killers. Oh I am glad we never see this in India.

[Seatherny]

Scientists say a lot of things, at the start of this crisis the experts said masks made very little difference until suddenly they did not, and scientists have also come up with some very peculiar modelling of transmission and death rates which have been proven completely and utterly false. I don't live my life by what Matt Hancock, Sajid Javid and Chris Whitty have to say, I make my own judgements because I live in a free society and I have critical thinking skills in which I treat whatever the government tells me with great scepticism. You're free to disagree with me but that's where your power ends, in disagreement. Not enforcement or compulsion.

That's why, last Christmas and New Year I was mixing with family having a party while Boris Johnson and his experts told you not to... but then went and did it themselves.

Sadly due to your stupidity, I have to pay an additional £60,000 in taxes every year. So yes, sadly those with brains have to pay for idiots like you.

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As I said, comparing India of years ago to today is pointless. If I take a bus tour of tourists to only poor parts of UK, they will also have a biased view. There are more "poor" people in the UK than in India. The only difference is the 10x population and the UK government putting these "poor" people in houses and feeding them with my tax money. Just because the government hides the poverty, doesn't mean UK isn't filled with poverty. There is a reason why Marcus Rashford has to raise money to feed kids, because of poverty in UK.

The cutting off limbs you are talking about, I have hardly seen this, but hey ho, if you see one person with a missing limb, all Indians must be doing this. Glad they are not at least murdering their kids for God knows what reason like British parents/carers Thomas Hughes and Emma Tustin did. I would never see this in India. You must be visiting or living only in nice parts of UK as London is full of rapists and other parts are filled with child murderers ... oh wait! You can't generalise the whole country based on a few lunatics. But you don't mind doing this do you? So lets now say UK is full of rapists and child killers. Oh I am glad we never see this in India.

Are you really comparing Kirkby in Liverpool to Dharavi in Bombay?

I think I'll have to call it a night on that one. Anyone interested can Google both places and see what I mean.

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Are you really comparing Kirkby in Liverpool to Dharavi in Bombay?

I think I'll have to call it a night on that one. Anyone interested can Google both places and see what I mean.

Like I said, because London has seen rape cases, Marcus Rashford has to beg the government to feed kids, and parents killing children in UK, UK must be filled with rapists, child killers and full of poverty. I guess poverty is the reason why people are killing their children in the UK because they cannot afford to feed them, so they kill them and they rape and kill because well... mentally ill and stressed from being poor.

Glad we do not see this in India! or anywhere else!

if anyone is interested, they can Google what I have said and you will find London has a lot of rape murders and parents do kill children in UK and parents can't afford to feed their kids!

See how easy it is to twist things?