What really happened at the pentagon during 9/11?

[Nicky]

Let's see what they showed on the news:

Violent attacks/bombings in the middle east
Attacks on the world trade centers
Nothing of the "airplane" hitting/heading for the pentagon


Disturbing? Not really, they always showed the planes hitting the world trade centers. Why not the plane coming twords or hitting the pentagon?
There were little, or no people in that part of the pentagon at the time.


Why not show the tapes unless they had something to hide?

First I ever heard of the Pentagon being hit by a plane.

[PatrickBuddy]

First I ever heard of the Pentagon being hit by a plane.

Wow...There was a hit on the pentagon. Just check google or something

[Dan2nd]

The staff at the pentagon would have not known anything about what hit the pentagon. The government said it was a plane. This would be understandable, because of the attacks on the world trade center.

what you said there is sick what kind of sick govement would use another terrorist attack where thousands died ON THE SAME DAY to fool the public then fake a attack and cause even more up set

The US are a very passionet contry even if it dosn't seem it. they always talk about god and refer to him when doing political speeches and always refuse to back down to protect their contry now this kind of govement would neva make themselfs seem weak or damage one of there most important military bases my brother belives you but i think its all wrong. :@

i aint gunna bad rep you but many ppl who belives their family were on tht plane tht was ment to have crashed into the pentigon may be up set byt his thread despite any evidence which is hardly any you have.

that CCTV footage makes the plane looked blurred and smaller because the speed it was traveling and it only takes images every couple of seconds so give me some rock solid proof of a clear image and i may belive but atm i fink this thread is disrepectful :@ and like i said in the other thread bout this let the people who died that day rest in peace don't question what happened


EDIT: ok after reading it again i saw the person who started this thread say this

Even if this WAS an act of terrorism, why can't we see any of the video tapes? Is there something to hide? Would they still be investigating it? I doubt they would be investigating it. What would the harm be showing the tapes?

because tht CCTV was the only thing filiming tht area at the time they aint gunna have a tv crew there for no reson "sayin look heres the pentigon being boring omg look theres a plane" think about it they aint gunna be filming something for no reason so don't ask silly questions

[PatrickBuddy]

because tht CCTV was the only thing filiming tht area at the time they aint gunna have a tv crew there for no reson "sayin look heres the pentigon being boring omg look theres a plane" think about it they aint gunna be filming something for no reason so don't ask silly questions

There WERE other video cameras that would have seen the "plane". There are highway security videos which were taken by the FBI. There was a gas station that had security cameras that WOULD have filmed the plane. Those tapes were ALSO taken by the FBI. There were many cameras atop a hotel that also would have shown the "plane" on the tape - those films were ALSO taken by the FBI. Please get your facts straight. I am not intentionally trying to disrespect the victims of 9/11. I am just stating a possible event that could have happened. I visited New York after 9/11 and I have given my respects.

Now back on topic. There was more than ONE camera that would have taken footage of whatever hit the pentagon. I would like to see the video from those cameras. Those pieces of footage is what has never been released.

PS. If you find this thread disrespectful (you should conclude from the starting post) please don't read it. It is not my fault if you get offended by whatever I am posting. This is all what is on my personal mind. If you find something that troubles you, then just don't read the thread.

[Dan2nd]

There WERE other video cameras that would have seen the "plane". There are highway security videos which were taken by the FBI. There was a gas station that had security cameras that WOULD have filmed the plane. Those tapes were ALSO taken by the FBI. There were many cameras atop a hotel that also would have shown the "plane" on the tape - those films were ALSO taken by the FBI. Please get your facts straight. I am not intentionally trying to disrespect the victims of 9/11. I am just stating a possible event that could have happened. I visited New York after 9/11 and I have given my respects.

Now back on topic. There was more than ONE camera that would have taken footage of whatever hit the pentagon. I would like to see the video from those cameras. Those pieces of footage is what has never been released.

PS. If you find this thread disrespectful (you should conclude from the starting post) please don't read it. It is not my fault if you get offended by whatever I am posting. This is all what is on my personal mind. If you find something that troubles you, then just don't read the thread.

are you a member of the FBI how do you no the FBI took these tapes? off that website? hmmm very reliable and since when do you know the shape a plane makes when it crash's into a building ?so how do you no these so called "Facts" of yours are true they aint facts they are the opinion of the person who made that flash movie so.. get me some proof that the FBI took these tapes other than they weren't shown on tv. also its a bit late telling ppl not to read this thread if they are offended by it on the 6th page

[PatrickBuddy]

Ok here's the thing. You were the first person who seem highly offended/disrespected by this thread.

Now, this information was on various TV shows analyizing 9/11. I bet if you were to visit the gas station, and ask the owner, he would say that the tapes have been taken by the FBI.

There are also security cameras on all of the particular hotel's roof. It is a company policy. Now, the cameras ARE in sight of the pentagon. Those tapes haven't been released yet. What has happened to them? Tapes don't mysteriously vanish.

If you think that this thread is garbage, think that I can't stop you.

Once again, these are my own opinions and that's all that I post.

do you know the shape a plane makes when it crash's into a building

Planes don't make almost perfect circles. Check the impact on the world trade centers, the wings make some indentation all the way though. As for "material difference" the world trade centers and the pentagon were made out of the same basic things. Steel inforced concrete.

[Dan2nd]

yeh but u sed tht it was a smaller plane how would tht have made perfect circle ? also lol soz i like debates i still don't understand why they would lie about a terror attack and i wasn't offended i jst like argueing o yeh what do u think happened to the plane tht was ment to have crashed into the pentigon then ? ...... well of course i think it did i'm jst asking wot u think happened to it

[PatrickBuddy]

I never said that whatever hit the pentagon was a "smaller plane" I just said there was a smaller plane that was on the video.

On closer inspection of the third or fourth frame, you can see a faint jet stream in front of the explosion. 747's do not emit such a jet stream. If the plane did have a jet stream, it would have been visible from the other frames.

The explosion too is also not consistant with a 747's. The flame is white and bright. When 747's or fuel explodes, it emits a bright orange/yellow flame. When most propelled explosives explode, they emit a bright white flame.

The plane resembles a figher jet, more than a 747. Don't propelled explosives explode on contact you ask. No, some propelled explosives explode a little while after contact. Some explosives don't even use much explosive power. Explosives in the case of this, could be used to punture large walls like here.

The fighter jet on the other hand, would have time to pull up, above the pentagon and safely fly away as spectators would be occupied looking at the explosive.