Be carefull of bans!

[Barmi]

wy can they do that ??

I presume you were responding to the post above yours. (Even though I highly doubt that anyone was banned for saying "I've got gold HC", I'll still give you an answer.)

As far as I interpret the Terms and Conditions, you "can have your access terminated for any or no reason." So although I doubt they were banned for that reason; it still remains that a reason is not needed to have your access terminated.

"Why?"
"Because they said so."
"But that's not fair."
"Well you agreed to it when you created your Habbo."

Hence the reason you should (although most don't) read the T&Cs when you create your Habbo.

Welcome to the Habbo Hotel Website. Following are the Terms and Conditions that govern your use of the Website. We would ask that if you are under 16 years old that you check with your parents or guardians before you agree to the Terms and Conditions, and you get them to explain anything in this document that you might not understand.

And while we're on the subject of legality... what do you think the response would be if we emailed in asking for all personal information held on file about our individual, as per the Data Protection Act?

8) DATA PROTECTION

The information that you provide about yourself to us will only be used in accordance with our Privacy Policy. Such Privacy Policy does not apply to websites operated by third parties. Sulake UK Ltd is registered under and adheres to the Data Protection Act (Registration Number Z5263105).

Naah... that would just be awkward and evil. Still, I would be interested in the reply.

Edit: And yes I do find it interesting that they allow over 18s to participate in account sharing, providing they can give valid evidence they are over 18 - especially as that is not stated anywhere that I can see on the Habbo Hotel site. Their stance on account sharing has always been absolute, and yet it appears it isn't, which has been kept from the majority? Anyway, I do vouch for the fact that "over 18s are allowed to share accounts" fits in this forum, because people were not aware of it before. In true tradition... nice find, +REP!

[Wig44.]

Most habbos have more than one person on the same account, so whydid they ignore millions and ban fitcovboy?

Now, they will be able to hide behind Ts & Cs so taking legal action isn't going to unnerve them.

If anyone here was fortunate enought to partake in business studies (sulake obviously havent) and communication they would learn that for a firm (company) to be succesful, the firm must have good customer relations and (going to all the emails people sent in that were ignored) good customer support with clear and fast communication. Now, sulake have achieved neither of those, so, over the process of time, habbohotel and more importantly sulake, will lose business.

The fact pver 18's are allowed to account share is probably BS, I think this is maybe the fact they don't want to go to court? Or, it could be true but they didn't want to reveal to the vast majority who are most likely to be teens who would then claim to be 18 and above causing hassle.

This is revolting and I will search for a loophole aswell.

Wig44

[Barmi]

Most habbos have more than one person on the same account, so whydid they ignore millions and ban fitcovboy?

I doubt that "most" do. Millions of Habbos do not share accounts. (There are 6 million unique users each month - I find it daring to suggest that 1/3rd of them share their account.) Maybe they wanted to make a precedent, and show people that they are not slacking when it comes to banning?

Now, they will be able to hide behind Ts & Cs so taking legal action isn't going to unnerve them.

If anyone here was fortunate enought to partake in business studies (sulake obviously havent) and communication they would learn that for a firm (company) to be succesful, the firm must have good customer relations and (going to all the emails people sent in that were ignored) good customer support with clear and fast communication. Now, sulake have achieved neither of those, so, over the process of time, habbohotel and more importantly sulake, will lose business.

Communications was only compulsory at my college if you got 1 grade C or lower at GCSE. I do Law, Lit, Gov&Pol, Maths, General Studies and Critical Thinking, so I shouldn't know what you have just posted? Unfortunately, a bit of common sense will tell you that. However, I will quote something that my Law teacher said to the whole class before the course began, which rings true for any subject: "Just because you are doing it at A-Level, does not mean you know everything you need to know about a subject. It provides you with a baseline understanding (advanced, yes, but still baseline compared to what you would go on to study in degree level)." Sulake will have people working for them who have degrees in Business and Economics, and will not easily be outdone by college students.

Therefore, I beg to differ from what you said. Sulake will have specialists in each area of their company. They will have individuals familiar with national law to write their legal documents, and the executives of the company will be familiar with common business practices that you have outlined. In fact, (if you have noticed,) Habbo are working heavily on their Player Support areas. (Hiring more staff, and response times are quickening up. They even have a member of staff that does weekend PS!)

The fact pver 18's are allowed to account share is probably BS, I think this is maybe the fact they don't want to go to court? Or, it could be true but they didn't want to reveal to the vast majority who are most likely to be teens who would then claim to be 18 and above causing hassle.

This is revolting and I will search for a loophole aswell.

Wig44

Good luck in searching for your loophole. If you do manage to find one, I give you all the best of luck, because a college student is not going to be much good against a company that has specialists in business and law. Habbo haven't said "18s are aloud to share, please don't sue us" at all. They are not scared, because nothing can come of it. They are more than adequately protected, as it stands.

[Wig44.]

I doubt that "most" do. Millions of Habbos do not share accounts. Maybe they wanted to make a precedent, and show people that they are not slacking when it comes to banning?

Communications was only compulsory at my college if you got 1 grade C or lower at GCSE. I do Law, Lit, Gov&Pol, Maths, General Studies and Critical Thinking, so I shouldn't know what you have just posted? Unfortunately, a bit of common sense will tell you that.

Therefore, I beg to differ from what you said. Sulake will have specialists in each area of their company. They will have individuals familiar with national law to write their legal documents, and the executives of the company will be familiar with common business practices that you have outlined. In fact, (if you have noticed,) Habbo are working heavily on their Player Support areas. (Hiring more staff, and response times are quickening up. They even have a member of staff that does weekend PS!)

Good luck in searching for your loophole. If you do manage to find one, I give you all the best of luck, because a college student is not going to be much good against a company that has specialists in business and law. Habbo haven't said "18s are aloud to share, please don't sue us" at all. They are not scared, because nothing can come of it. They are more than adequately protected, as it stands.

Sorry, but I feel you are patronizing me. Also I didn't get C or lower in my GCSE but I went to a college that specialised in business studies which is how I know. And also, I'm leaving college very soon infact im 17 in october.

Also I never said that they said 18s are aloud to share please don't sue us... and also I never said they are scared. I have stated against court action because it is pretty obvious a multi million pound company would win any court action.

Sulake maybe working on customer support, but why is it people are still being ignored?

Also, you seem to be standing up for sulake saying, nope, no you cannot possibly challenge sulake it is hopeless. (although you are right )

Fitcovboy, you may aswell give them proof you are 18 or above, (if you are cos I dunno that much about you) and settle this.

[::d4nnyt::]

That is well bad about you getting banned for that. I think the answer to this is don't waste your money on habbo make a proper investment.

And while we're on the subject of legality... what do you think the response would be if we emailed in asking for all personal information held on file about our individual, as per the Data Protection Act?

So this means if I email them asking for all of my personal details that they have on record they would have no choice but to give me them?

[Barmi]

Sorry, but I feel you are patronizing me. I didn't get C or lower in my GCSE but I went to a colledge that specialised in business studies which is how I know. And also, I'm leaving college very soon infact im 17 in october.

Also I never said that they said 18s are aloud to share please don't sue us... and also I never said they are scared. I have stated against court action because it is pretty obvious a multi million pound company would win any court action.

Sulake maybe working on customer support, but why is it people are still being ignored?

Also, you seem to be standing up for sulake saying, nope, no you cannot possibly challenge sulake it is hopeless. (although you are right )

Fitcovboy, you may aswell give them proof you are 18 or above, (if you are cos I dunno that much about you) and settle this.

Not patronising, I was just giving a valid reason for why I didn't take communications... and as you said "anyone that took business or communications would have known X". I'm sorry if you were offended in any way - take what I say with a pinch of salt and sugar at the same time. (Go you for going to nice college anyway.) Oh, and "working on" does not mean perfect. ;P

I'm not sticking up for Sulake - I'm playing the advocate role, as I usually do.

Edit:

So this means if I email them asking for all of my personal details that they have on record they would have no choice but to give me them?

Data Subject's Rights according to the 1998 Act

A data subject is entitled to make a written request to the data controller, accompanied by administration fee of £10 or under (1998 prices) and be given within 40 days:

* a description of their data,
* the purposes for which it is being processed,
* people to whom it may be disclosed,
* the name of the organisation that is actually carrying out the processing of their data.

Data subjects have the right to have inaccurate data amended or deleted. The data user may issue an application form in order to obtain more details about you. If your data has been split up and registered under separate categories, you may be charged for each individual category.

They also have new rights of :

* preventing processing that is likely to cause damage or distress and to sue for compensation if damage or distress have been caused.
* they can prevent processing for direct marketing purposes, so anyone can stop the arrival of personalised junk mail by writing to the data controller.
* they are entitled to be informed of the logic used in automated decision making, e.g. checking a person's creditworthiness using a computer program.
* they have the right to ask the Commissioner to check whether certain processing of their data is being carried out unlawfully.

Exemptions to Subject Access Requests

There are a number of stated exemptions which provide reasons why personal data should not be released in a given case. These notably include:
· health data which, if released, might damage the physical or mental health of the individual
· data used for research purposes
· examination scripts (but examiners' comments are not exempt)
· journalism, literature and art
· management forecasts, negotiations, etc
· information which would reveal the identity of an unwilling third party.

Of course, you would have to check if the "administration fee" would be applicable first, before you chuck the money their way. ;P Please note though, that it was a general sweeping comment, and when I used the term "awkward", I meant it. It's too much of a clown around in reality. Plus, there would be much more you'd need to read up on.

[Just-One]

I'm playing the advocate role, as I usually do.

Stop stealing my job *sneers @ Barmi*

Anyhoo.. I can not believe 18 year olds ARE allowed to account share and kids can not. What stupid orangutan at Sulake decided up that rule? Talk about blimmem discrimination against age.. and exploiting kids not having rights.. Shees!


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Says : Sure, you may account share if your over 18 Anyway BRB guys.. Gonna go BAN BANABAANABANA 'cause well, I love being a right old hypocrite when I say "Why FOMO and ban, when you can ignore.. it means everyone can stay on the hotel! "

[Barmi]

Stop stealing my job *sneers @ Barmi*

Anyhoo.. I can not believe 18 year olds ARE allowed to account share and kids can not. What stupid orangutan at Sulake decided up that rule? Talk about blimmem discrimination against age.. and exploiting kids not having rights.. Shees!


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LOL! :eusa_clap
Edit: Just saw you edited picture! Ooh la laa, that is one attractive monkey!

I found this also particularly amusing (the T&Cs are thrilling when you delve into them, y'know?):

2.3 Sulake UK Ltd has no obligation to monitor the Website. However, we reserve the right to review materials posted to the Chat Room and Message Boards and to remove any materials at our sole discretion. Habbo reserves the right to terminate your access to the Chat Room and Message Boards, or the Site at any time, without notice, for any or no reason. The Habbo Hotel Moderator shall treat all colleagues and customers and suppliers on their merit irrespective of sex, age, marital status, colour, creed, race, ethnic or national origin.

Ah well...
I also wonder why under 18s aren't able to share accounts, yet over 18s are, and to what extent. Do both share-ers have to be over 18 aswell? I might take a visit to the Help Tool tomorrow.

[Just-One]

LOL! :eusa_clap
Edit: Just saw you edited picture! Ooh la laa, that is one attractive monkey!

I found this also particularly amusing:

Ah well...
I also wonder why under 18s aren't able to share accounts, yet over 18s are, and to what extent. Do both share-ers have to be over 18 aswell? I might take a visit to the Help Tool tomorrow.

Wow your on to something there! Let's get onto the Office of Fair Trading with this post.

[EDIT] Better yet!! WatchDog :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/tv_and...ct_index.shtml


Ashame it doesn't say..

The Habbo Hotel Moderator shall treat all colleagues and customers and suppliers on their merit irrespective of sex, age, marital status, colour, creed, race, ethnic or national origin. OR IF BECS LIKES YOU OR NOT CUZ LYK WE LOVE TO DISCRIMINATE THOSE WHO BECS HATE INNIT... LOL OBV JUST-ONE DNT COUNT IN DA T&C CUZ HE IZ 2 1337 FOR THESE!!!

[united-champ]

i agree with undertaker!
i reproted a noob for scamming mea nd being stupid,
I get a message back,
Report using this link
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lol..
Reprot sum1 for Swearing normally a IGNORE but they got a 2Hours bans!