Mac vs Windows

[DrLacero]

... except joy when I don't get BSOD's and multiple problems!

I have had no problems and no BSODs with my Windows PC thanks.

Neither have I since windows 3.1.

Enjoy your "can't do **** captain" OS on overpriced hardware.

[Swearwolf]

windows obv lol

[Recursion]

I want one person, to list me everything they think is wrong with Vista, GO.

[Monopoly]

I want one person, to list me everything they think is wrong with Vista, GO.

There's nothing wrong with Vista any more.
There was at first as everyone knows but everyone who still moans is jsut being a sheep.
Had to be said.

I still want a Mac.

[DrLacero]

I want one person, to list me everything they think is wrong with Vista, GO.

1. UAC
2. "This program is trying to do something which isn't remotely dangerous, but are you sure you want to let it anyway?"
   Run | Don't Run
3. Bloated themes
4. Poor resource management
5. Overpriced

That's all I have against it, I'm sure someone else will have more.

[tdi]

I use Windows, I would like a mac but I haven't got much experience with macs so can't say whether I prefer it or not.

[HotelUser]

I want one person, to list me everything they think is wrong with Vista, GO.

1. It boots slower than XP.
2. It's requirements are ridiculously higher (and that is based off me using Vista on several machines since it's came out, and having to do upgrades on each, even though they all came with Vista Premium.)
3. Windows Sidebar is useless (I can disable it, but it shouldn't have came with my computer in the first place.
4. UAC is pointless..you might as well not turn on your computer with it enabled.
5. Incompatibility with applications and software (a big one being Flight Simulator..it works for some, but for others it's incompatible with the "Aero Experience".
6. I like the indexed searching...but I liked it better on OSX when I saw it first.
7. Honestly, I don't think there are enough positive features of Vista, to make me want to upgrade...convince me !

My own opinion
Just because Vista is newer than XP doesn't automatically make it significantly better. The latest and greatest isn't always better...Vista may have a few good features, but it's requirements are massive compared to XP's requirements, and even if your system is Vista ready, Vista's not going to run as efficiently as XP would. In my opinion I can just not see how running Vista (which is going to be slower) over XP is logical.
Not many people have/will be going out to the store to purchase a license of Vista to install on their systems. Vista is getting sold because computer manufacturers are licensing the operating system from Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't give them the choice of licensing XP, and contracts expire..what is Dell or HP going to do..start selling ALL their products with Ubuntu? I think not. I know very few people who actually prefer Vista over XP, but they're stuck using it, because of Microsoft's "you can only downgrade if you have our most expensive version of Vista plan".
If I think back...I can't even see the point in switching from Windows 2000 to XP..but at the time my new computer had been shipped with XP. Since the release of Vista, I don't remember seeing so many users switching over to Ubuntu, as they can't downgrade to XP.
The only positive thing Vista has done that I care about, is that manufacturers are making better computers to accommodate Vista better, and PCs are getting cheaper and cheaper..yet Apple assures me that a $2,200 is a good deal, when I can get a Intel Quad Q6600 for $539. Lets say I did buy that iMac, and I wanted to play Flight Simulator. Okay..no problem (and lets say I'm an honest guy and don't pirate software) I'll just purchase a Vista license ranging from $200-$400 and dual boot it! (One thing I do admire from Apple, though, is the Mac Minis, although they can get a tad pricey too).
In the very very end, not everyone is going to agree with everyone else on which computer they want to buy. Maybe I like mixing music, so I'll get a Mac Mini, or I just like surfing the internet..so I'll get a netbook. If I want to play games and watch TV all day I'll get the HP MediaCenter PC with the Q6600. Not everyone wants to do everything everyone else is doing. To be honest, if I had been using Macs all my life then I'd probably be supporting them more than I support Windows, and PCs in general..there's thousands of different scenarios as to why someone wants one system, and someone else wants another system. It's their life, they're selecting the computer they think will best accommodate to their needs.

Ooh, and I just want to add that it wont matter as much in a few years about what operating system you're running...because of all the "in the cloud" services online. What was Microsoft's most recent offer attempting to acquire Google?

[DrLacero]

Ooh, and I just want to add that it wont matter as much in a few years about what operating system you're running...because of all the "in the cloud" services online. What was Microsoft's most recent offer attempting to acquire Google?

Biiig block of text there with some very good points
Those cloud ideas don't sound very appealing to me, I'm never going to let my computer be run from somewhere else as I want privacy for a start. It was yahoo that MS offered to purchase for £22.4 billion, not google by the way.

[Recursion]

1. UAC
2. "This program is trying to do something which isn't remotely dangerous, but are you sure you want to let it anyway?"
   Run | Don't Run
3. Bloated themes
4. Poor resource management
5. Overpriced

That's all I have against it, I'm sure someone else will have more.

1. Can be turned off, Mac has a worse equivalent of putting your password in.
2. Thats UAC, again can be turned off, its protecting your computer, like a Mac.
3. How is it bloated?
4. EXCUSE ME? POOR RESOURCE MANAGMENT? PMSL? It actually has fart better management than any of the other Windows OSs out there. If the resources are there why not use them?
5. Overpriced? All software is overpriced.

1. It boots slower than XP.
2. It's requirements are ridiculously higher (and that is based off me using Vista on several machines since it's came out, and having to do upgrades on each, even though they all came with Vista Premium.)
3. Windows Sidebar is useless (I can disable it, but it shouldn't have came with my computer in the first place.
4. UAC is pointless..you might as well not turn on your computer with it enabled.
5. Incompatibility with applications and software (a big one being Flight Simulator..it works for some, but for others it's incompatible with the "Aero Experience".
6. I like the indexed searching...but I liked it better on OSX when I saw it first.
7. Honestly, I don't think there are enough positive features of Vista, to make me want to upgrade...convince me !

My own opinion
Just because Vista is newer than XP doesn't automatically make it significantly better. The latest and greatest isn't always better...Vista may have a few good features, but it's requirements are massive compared to XP's requirements, and even if your system is Vista ready, Vista's not going to run as efficiently as XP would. In my opinion I can just not see how running Vista (which is going to be slower) over XP is logical.
Not many people have/will be going out to the store to purchase a license of Vista to install on their systems. Vista is getting sold because computer manufacturers are licensing the operating system from Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't give them the choice of licensing XP, and contracts expire..what is Dell or HP going to do..start selling ALL their products with Ubuntu? I think not. I know very few people who actually prefer Vista over XP, but they're stuck using it, because of Microsoft's "you can only downgrade if you have our most expensive version of Vista plan".
If I think back...I can't even see the point in switching from Windows 2000 to XP..but at the time my new computer had been shipped with XP. Since the release of Vista, I don't remember seeing so many users switching over to Ubuntu, as they can't downgrade to XP.
The only positive thing Vista has done that I care about, is that manufacturers are making better computers to accommodate Vista better, and PCs are getting cheaper and cheaper..yet Apple assures me that a $2,200 is a good deal, when I can get a Intel Quad Q6600 for $539. Lets say I did buy that iMac, and I wanted to play Flight Simulator. Okay..no problem (and lets say I'm an honest guy and don't pirate software) I'll just purchase a Vista license ranging from $200-$400 and dual boot it! (One thing I do admire from Apple, though, is the Mac Minis, although they can get a tad pricey too).
In the very very end, not everyone is going to agree with everyone else on which computer they want to buy. Maybe I like mixing music, so I'll get a Mac Mini, or I just like surfing the internet..so I'll get a netbook. If I want to play games and watch TV all day I'll get the HP MediaCenter PC with the Q6600. Not everyone wants to do everything everyone else is doing. To be honest, if I had been using Macs all my life then I'd probably be supporting them more than I support Windows, and PCs in general..there's thousands of different scenarios as to why someone wants one system, and someone else wants another system. It's their life, they're selecting the computer they think will best accommodate to their needs.

Ooh, and I just want to add that it wont matter as much in a few years about what operating system you're running...because of all the "in the cloud" services online. What was Microsoft's most recent offer attempting to acquire Google?

1. It doesn't boot slower than XP :S I turn my PC on and its on the desktop in about 30 seconds, XP took about 3 minutes.
2. Please get out of the past and into the present, most computers have 2GB RAM+ nowadays.
3. Its not useless if you get good gadgets for it, why shouldn't it come with it in the first place? All you have to do is right click > close.
4. UAC can again, be disabled, but its like Mac's equivalent, only better.
5. Flight Sim 2004 was... well, 4 years ago, of course it probably will have some issues, mine worked perfectly with Aero, but after a long time it would stop working, this is after about 2 hours of use, so I just tell it to disable Aero while im playing it, no biggy imo.
6. Index searching was in Linux long before OSX, anyway, I prefer having it in the start menu rathar than in the top of my screen non-stop.
7. Not much to say to that.

I agree. Apple do take the piss with their prices majorly, you can just be as fun and creative on Windows, the "Get a Mac" ads Apple do are quite good, but at the same time extremely childish, having to **** off other companies. Now I see Microsoft is following that trend to counteract them, fair dos.

But, as the days go by, we should be moving to bigger and better hardware, and Vista is pushing this, Apple are making their operating systems backwards compatible with the older stuff, because then they can make more money by selling it to old users imo. Microsoft are doing the right thing and stepping up the requirments, making companies sell hardware, cheaper!

Dell and HP are being forced to sell Vista by Microsoft, they are phasing out XP now, after all, XP is the past, Vista is the present.

Microsoft tried to buy out Yahoo! not Google

[Shawnstra]

I used to use windows 3 weeks ago, now I'm mainly on a mac, and I prefer: mac. Why? It just works. Simpler everything, beautiful GUI, etc. Spotlight easier to find stuff compared to windows search, loads faster too compared to windows search. also better location (no need to go through start menu) Dock is great, easier to launch new apps and also view the ones you have open at the same time, expose very easy with mighty mouse (Ctrl+tab more difficult) especially when I have to change between windows frequently.