TPB Trial has ended... waiting for a verdict now.

[Barmi]

I'll admit I hardly know anything about Swedish law. But Google still knows they're indexing illegal content. They're allowing this content to be indexed, and they're allowing users to search for this content. In that sense it is to my opinion that TPB and Google are both guilty (or not guilty) of the same thing.

Google are not reasonably expected to be able to monitor everything they index. Your analogy is unreasonable, flawed, and would bring in unnecessary liability to many aspects of the internet. There is a chief difference in that a) Google remove indexed content when requested by relevant bodies or notice themselves, and b) Google are not providing their service with the express knowledge that they are going to provide links to questionable sites. TPB go further than that: they intentionally supply their service to allow their users to download pirated material.

Your argument might be easier to accept if it was a less ubiquitously questionable torrent site in question... but it's The Pirate Bay we're talking about here, and they have clearly demonstrated their mental disposition towards the legality of their actions.

[HotelUser]

Google are not reasonably expected to be able to monitor everything they index. Your analogy is unreasonable, flawed, and would bring in unnecessary liability to many aspects of the internet. There is a chief difference in that a) Google remove indexed content when requested by relevant bodies or notice themselves, and b) Google are not providing their service with the express knowledge that they are going to provide links to questionable sites. TPB go further than that: they intentionally supply their service to allow their users to download pirated material.

Google indexes pages using crawlers. Robots that search content and index accordingly. It wouldn't be difficult at all to create filters to automatically block illegal content, yet they don't do that. Google's already been sued for association with illegal cracks with their relevant text feature: http://designtaxi.com/news.jsp?id=26...th=5&year=2006

I'm not sure how legitimate this is, although it's interesting:

Kennedy was asked why they haven’t sued Google the same way as TPB. He said that Google said they would partner IFPI in fighting piracy and he has a team of 10 people working with Google every day, and if Google hadn’t announced they were a partner, IFPI would have sued them too.

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...-day-8-090225/

Your argument might be easier to accept if it was a less ubiquitously questionable torrent site in question... but it's The Pirate Bay we're talking about here, and they have clearly demonstrated their mental disposition towards the legality of their actions.

Yes, it's quite obvious The Pirate bay has intentions of distributing illegal torrents, although my point about Google still stands. Both websites are giving us (the users) the freedom to get indexed anything we want.

[Ardemax]

TPB and Google have many differences.
One may be that 99% on TPB is illegal + Google does not intend to be.
Case closed.

[Hitman]

I'm waiting for the day they go at it with a big usenet provider like Giganews and see what it's like to go at someone with as much if not more money than themselves.



Torrents aren't illegal this is the entire point of their defence （　｀ー´）

You can get innocent Linux distro torrents which aren't illegal, but torrents that provide copyrighted software that costs are illegal. I know the actual .torrent file doesn't contain the software, but it basically gives you it.

[no waiii]

Well maybe you should read the posts next time? Thats the point in a forum :S

sorry but **** you, i was right http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-team-charged-080131/

Thinking you ms.knowitall xox

[HotelUser]

TPB and Google have many differences.
One may be that 99% on TPB is illegal + Google does not intend to be.
Case closed.

But they were going to sue Google if they hadn't done anything about it.
Now case closed.

[Recursion]

sorry but **** you, i was right http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-team-charged-080131/

Thinking you ms.knowitall xox

Well if you had read the thread, like I told you to, you would have found out we had already established this. :rolleyes:

[no waiii]

Well if you had read the thread, like I told you to, you would have found out we had already established this. :rolleyes:

well i said in my post i didn;t read the post but i heard they got convicted yet you say im wrong????

make sene lovey xoxox

[Ardemax]

But they were going to sue Google if they hadn't done anything about it.
Now case closed.

Fair enough, but Google couldn't be sued for that reason.

[RichardKnox]

well i said in my post i didn;t read the post but i heard they got convicted yet you say im wrong????

make sene lovey xoxox

BEING CONVICTED IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TO BEING CHARGED.
I can be charged with robbery but not have gone to court yet, the POLICE convict you and at this point (at least in this country) you are still presumed innocent, thus non convicted, until THE CPS find you guilty of the crime you've been charged with.

I honestly think that TPB will be found guilty on a very nominal charge, probably due to pressure from America more than anything, and even then it won't be near enough to impact on TPB. The prosecutor has seriously buggered up though, and had to drop charges due to lack of evidence is pretty crazy. It wasn't even as if a not proven verdict (e.g. what we can get in Scotland, basically guilty but not enough evidence and thus no conviction) was given, just had to be dropped. I think TPB have got lucky by being up against a reasonably poor prosecution, and if it was one of the best lawyers they may not be so lucky? Of course there is still the chance they'll get a very harsh verdict, only time will tell though.