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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
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    I don't download music, i buy the cd's, wow a whole £8, bankrupts me.
    I dont rly believe that cuz im sure you've downloaded atleast 1 song, or someone sent you a song they downloaded. Anyways i really dont care because yeah your doing the right thing, but we dont live in a perfect world so someone will always be downloading something they shouldnt but it happens.
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    It's more than acceptable for these forums to be run legitimately. If people want to illegally download, go ahead, I'm not stopping them, but they can go elsewhere and make no reference to here. Many places specialise in this, so there is no need for these forums to stoop to their level. Like I said, I'm not stopping anyone from doing what they want at places where its commonplace like The Pirate Bay or whatever, but there is no need for it here, yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch View Post
    Okay fair enough, but thats your opinion/choice im guessing most would probably take it. Also i can almost guarantee you download music so whats the difference really?
    No... I think you'll find most people wouldn't want to commit grand theft auto :S.

    Even though I've got around 50GB of music and films, the majority of which were .. you know..(not all by me but whatever), I still believe it is right for Habbox for enforce this rule.

    It's either a law-abiding community or it's not. If it's OK to share illegal downloads, why isn't it OK for me to sell my Habbo account for cash? That's something I really want to do, and it would be a lot easier if it could be done through the forum but it can't, so it's too risky to bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misawa View Post
    It's more than acceptable for these forums to be run legitimately. If people want to illegally download, go ahead, I'm not stopping them, but they can go elsewhere and make no reference to here. Many places specialise in this, so there is no need for these forums to stoop to their level. Like I said, I'm not stopping anyone from doing what they want at places where its commonplace like The Pirate Bay or whatever, but there is no need for it here, yes?
    You were meant to be leaving after they merged TV and Film forums together anyway.

    Edited by invincible (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't be rude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garion View Post
    Up until this point we have indeed turned a blind eye to such activities. It was never expressly against the rules however as Misawa pointed out for the most part, it is illegal and we would much prefer not to have the hosting suspended for breaking the law. It was discussed with with the acting General Manager before we decided to do it and it was decided it was in Habbox's interests to stop it happening. Besides, there are many other sources of such things all over the internet - all of them a lot better than Habbox.
    So is paedophilia and murder, yet they're not against any sort of rules and obviously not talked about :rolleyes: Another pointless rule imo, what happened previously was perfectly acceptable. Nice to see pointless rule making is alive and well

    Surely a rule that surrounds US/UK law should be created? At least this would cover the creation of yet more pointless rules such as murder, rape, paedophilia, organised crime and so forth. Seems better than chucking more things into the mix :rolleyes:

    And the hosting would not be suspended, especially when talking of these activities would of been acted upon anyway (from what I've seen in the past at least) :/ Not forgetting people only really did it over the PM system with a "Want a Photoshop CS4 crack? PM me" question, something you cannot have explicit control over without destroying the very meaning behind what a Private message is. So technically, discussions of any sort are fine, provided you do it via PM :/ You can only really turn a blind eye to the action - removing links and people giving out hacks, codes and so forth is the only action you can undertake, but what goes beyond what you see e.g. the PM system. Besides, the "let them get viruses and laugh at them response" is usually the best option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    So is paedophilia and murder, yet they're not against any sort of rules and obviously not talked about :rolleyes: Another pointless rule imo, what happened previously was perfectly acceptable. Nice to see pointless rule making is alive and well

    Surely a rule that surround US/UK law should be created? At least this would cover the creation of yet more pointless rules such as murder, rape, paedophilia, organised crime and so forth. Seems better than chucking more things into the mix :rolleyes:

    And the hosting would not be suspended, especially when talking of these activities would of been acted upon :/ Not forgetting people only really did it over the PM system, something you cannot have explicit control over without destroying the very meaning behind what a Private message is. So technically, discussions of any sort are fine, provided you do it via PM :/
    Yes but anyone discussing paedophilia or murder (other than in our mass MSN conversations, of course) would instantly be banned and where necessary the police would be contacted. This isn't a regular occurrence, whereas issues surrounding illegal software downloads etc was becoming an issue.

    Perhaps we could create a rule which forbids the breaking of English law, however this is common sense - we won't allow law breaking posts on the forum. I think most people are aware of this, or have at least a vague idea that this is probably the case. That is why an explicit rule hasn't been created in regard to Warez, rather we posted an announcement clarifying the issue just so people were fully aware.

    You're right, we don't have control over the PM system. Unless someone chooses to report a PM or we have adequate reason to read the private messages you send and receive. However, this will only happen in exceptional circumstances. Although I would like to point out that if you say to someone "PM me the link" or similar, you are essentially encouraging others to break the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    So is paedophilia and murder, yet they're not against any sort of rules and obviously not talked about :rolleyes: Another pointless rule imo, what happened previously was perfectly acceptable. Nice to see pointless rule making is alive and well

    Surely a rule that surrounds US/UK law should be created? At least this would cover the creation of yet more pointless rules such as murder, rape, paedophilia, organised crime and so forth. Seems better than chucking more things into the mix :rolleyes:

    And the hosting would not be suspended, especially when talking of these activities would of been acted upon anyway (from what I've seen in the past at least) :/ Not forgetting people only really did it over the PM system with a "Want a Photoshop CS4 crack? PM me" question, something you cannot have explicit control over without destroying the very meaning behind what a Private message is. So technically, discussions of any sort are fine, provided you do it via PM :/ You can only really turn a blind eye to the action - removing links and people giving out hacks, codes and so forth is the only action you can undertake, but what goes beyond what you see e.g. the PM system. Besides, the "let them get viruses and laugh at them response" is usually the best option.
    So how many people come on habboxforum to organise a crime and carry it out? :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattGarner View Post
    I believe there has been a problem with one company regarding something. Most of the time they forget your even a website and will go straight to where anyone is hosted. (The servers etc) So it is better safe then sorry.
    Yes I believe it was spacial audio with their SAM broadcasters as people were giving out codes freely on the froum. I think this is most likely it, as a few weeks ago Jin removed all the codes and requested DJs not to post them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    So how many people come on habboxforum to organise a crime and carry it out? :rolleyes:
    None, because it's kinda common sense not to Seriously speaking at least, people always go on about wanting people dead (not necessarily ones they know) and suggest stealing stuff. Besides, you can easily do it through the PM system if you wanted to, like if you want to share warez, cracks and serials The rule seems to be covering the obvious - don't post these on the forums, just do it through the PM system, which people have done for ages :/

    I remember when I got SAM 2 for free from Habbox, they had the codes in the staff forum when I was thinking about becoming a DJ - they even told you to use it Never really understood whether or not they were allowed to give it out for free :S
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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    None, because it's kinda common sense not to Seriously speaking at least, people always go on about wanting people dead (not necessarily ones they know) and suggest stealing stuff. Besides, you can easily do it through the PM system if you wanted to, like if you want to share warez, cracks and serials The rule seems to be covering the obvious - don't post these on the forums, just do it through the PM system, which people have done for ages :/

    I remember when I got SAM 2 for free from Habbox, they had the codes in the staff forum when I was thinking about becoming a DJ - they even told you to use it Never really understood whether or not they were allowed to give it out for free :S
    And chances of a company seeing a private message is what?

    People don't come on here and say "brb, im going to get my knife and murder ____________". Saying stuff like "oh i wish you were dead" or "i wish <celeb name here> would just die already" is hardly against the law as its not exactly a threat or anything.

    'Suggest people stealing stuff' that would be why this rule is put into place to cut down on this.

    If its done though PM then companies aren't going to see it so wouldn't have any problem about it..

    HxL im sure has been reported several time for using the codes, but obviousy hxl is a very little site so i doubt their that bothered.

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