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    Usually if the tests work on animals it's likely to work on humans as far as my knowledge on this goes ... But no, I don't think it's right and it's unfair, but to be honest, the human race is more important imo, and therefore its better to test or anything other than humans, cos they need to test somewhere so they dont destroy the human race

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tash. View Post
    At the first bit, nobody will be able to do that because I doubt that sort of information is readily available to find out. Not to mention that the majority of medications probably have been tested on animals and there are most likely no alternatives to even try, so it'd be pretty hard to avoid.
    If somebody is opposed to all animal testing, if they have never used any medication that has used animals for testing to help them get better/to save their life then i'll respect them because that would mean they are not hypocritical, if they have used them medicines then they are a hypocrite and I do not respect their point, because nor do they.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    If somebody is opposed to all animal testing, if they have never used any medication that has used animals for testing to help them get better/to save their life then i'll respect them because that would mean they are not hypocritical, if they have used them medicines then they are a hypocrite and I do not respect their point, because nor do they.
    You didn't read what I said did you? It is almost impossible to avoid using medication (especially when you are seriously ill) that may have been tested on animals. You cannot stop a doctor in a hospital from giving you something and go "Oh wait, can you tell me if this was tested on animals please?" because they aren't going to know either way. It's stupid to suggest otherwise.

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    If you were truly committed to the cause that would be possible, yes. It's illegal for them to give you something you don't want and a good doctor would probably know where a drug came from
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tash. View Post
    You didn't read what I said did you? It is almost impossible to avoid using medication (especially when you are seriously ill) that may have been tested on animals. You cannot stop a doctor in a hospital from giving you something and go "Oh wait, can you tell me if this was tested on animals please?" because they aren't going to know either way. It's stupid to suggest otherwise.
    I did read what you said, and yes it's simple - you refuse normal medication because the likelyhood is that is has been tested on animals. If not, then its hypocrisy at its best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I did read what you said, and yes it's simple - you refuse normal medication because the likelyhood is that is has been tested on animals. If not, then its hypocrisy at its best.
    So you reject all medication just incase? What happens then if you reject it all, you die and it turns out the medication that could've saved you was infact an exception and wasn't tested on animals? Not a bright idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tash. View Post
    So you reject all medication just incase? What happens then if you reject it all, you die and it turns out the medication that could've saved you was infact an exception and wasn't tested on animals? Not a bright idea.
    I am not against animal testing for medical reasons, henceforth I have no reason to object to any medicines or treatments I may need.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tash. View Post
    So you reject all medication just incase? What happens then if you reject it all, you die and it turns out the medication that could've saved you was infact an exception and wasn't tested on animals? Not a bright idea.
    I agree, the idea is stupid: All medication was tested on animals. You someone doesnt wanna use it, they do die, thats their choice.
    The medication's would not be around at all without animal testing afterall, so if someone wants to make the case that you would rather animal testing did not exist without being a total hypocrite, they'd also have to refuse life saving medication that comes from it. At least that way though they are only singing their own death warrants if they get ill. rather than forcing the rest of the population to die from easily treated illnesses, as would be the case if animal testing really, did not exist "/
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    lol so skanky animals it's ok to test on but not the more cuddly ones? That's like saying human rights shouldn't apply to ugly people (good idea imo)
    lol i din't mean that but who actually likes rats and dogs and monkeys would prob feel more pain also i agree with mentor

    Quote Originally Posted by Mentor View Post
    I agree, the idea is stupid: All medication was tested on animals. You someone doesnt wanna use it, they do die, thats their choice.
    The medication's would not be around at all without animal testing afterall, so if someone wants to make the case that you would rather animal testing did not exist without being a total hypocrite, they'd also have to refuse life saving medication that comes from it. At least that way though they are only singing their own death warrants if they get ill. rather than forcing the rest of the population to die from easily treated illnesses, as would be the case if animal testing really, did not exist "/
    as we need medicene more than rats or mice if we didn't more humans would die of illnesses and dieseses

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    Although I agree with animal testing for medical purposes, I disagree with animal testing for cosmetic and miscellaneous purposes.

    Of course in an ideal world we'd be able to create medicines which worked perfectly without testing on animals or humans, but unfortunately science hasn't reached that stage yet. Therefore we have to test on animals. This may sound harsh of me to say, but I'd rather save a human than an animal. I do care about animals, after being a vegetarian since I was about 9, but if it came to choice of saving either hundreds of children or hundreds of animals; I'd choose the former. If science was able to create effective medication without animal testing, then I'm sure animal testing would've already been demolished.

    Also, for a few of you which say that you'd rather die than agree with animal testing, like someone before me said; when it comes to it, you're the one that won't take the medication if it's been tested on animals, but don't let other people who do want to take it suffer, or even die, because of it.

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