Don't increase post count in Welcome forum

[Seatherny]

This is what Habbox forgets, it seems to think, and still appears to think thats its position is cemented against other forums.

HabboxForum: Currently Active Users: 142 (74 members and 68 guests)
HFFM: Currently Active Users: 29 (22 members and 7 guests) with only 209 members visiting in the last 24 hours.

If anyone believes that HabboxForum is less active because it says Most users ever online was 819, 11-07-2008 at 06:41 PM. at the bottom of the forum then LOL because I made that happen by placing a iFrame on my site which used to get 40,000 Uniques a day.

HabboxForum still gets the same number of visitors a day as it did 2 years ago. Simple as. Its always averaged between 200-250 (sometimes 300) during peak hours.

[-:Undertaker:-]

HabboxForum: Currently Active Users: 142 (74 members and 68 guests)
HFFM: Currently Active Users: 29 (22 members and 7 guests) with only 209 members visiting in the last 24 hours.

If anyone believes that HabboxForum is less active because it says Most users ever online was 819, 11-07-2008 at 06:41 PM. at the bottom of the forum then LOL because I made that happen by placing a iFrame on my site which used to get 40,000 Uniques a day.

HabboxForum still gets the same number of visitors a day as it did 2 years ago. Simple as. Its always averaged between 200-250 (sometimes 300) during peak hours.

We in management have been told that Habbox is on the decline, that is also why management on here have not come on and told us that Habbox is not declining - because the simple fact is that Habbox is in decline.

You go on the hotel, Habbox is no longer in room descriptions.
You go on the forum, less forum activity.
You go on the site, less comments on articles.
You go to the rare values desk, empty.
You go to the help desk, mostly forum users and staff.

Instead of picking over the most pointless rules imaginable and trying to impose what we can here and there, lets actually get out there on the hotel, relax the forum and get Habbox back on track. Once its gone its gone.

[Seatherny]

I have always said, Habbox need to do more events, relax the rules on the forums (but this rule should be implemented), not close discussions but Moderators sort it out instead of closing it (a good one was closed earlier when it could have been avoided), do more competitions within the forum which anyone can enter and win prizes.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Why should this rule be implemented? - it serves no purpose, can vary right across the forum and has never been a problem until now, where it appears to have become a life or death issue. At a time when the forum is in decline (yet you disputed that and have now backtracked) you want to punish people for posting and wanting to get their post count higher? - in a way which helps the forum, those who are posting and new members themselves.

[Hecktix]

Why should this rule be implemented? - it serves no purpose, can vary right across the forum and has never been a problem until now, where it appears to have become a life or death issue. At a time when the forum is in decline (yet you disputed that and have now backtracked) you want to punish people for posting and wanting to get their post count higher? - in a way which helps the forum, those who are posting and new members themselves.

By that principle are you saying we should enable post count within spam?

[Seatherny]

Why should this rule be implemented? - it serves no purpose, can vary right across the forum and has never been a problem until now, where it appears to have become a life or death issue. At a time when the forum is in decline (yet you disputed that and have now backtracked) you want to punish people for posting and wanting to get their post count higher? - in a way which helps the forum, those who are posting and new members themselves.

Like someone has already said before, the people posting so much in the Welcome forum are only doing so to get their post counts up for whatever reason. However, if the post count was disabled there, the would have to post in proper discussions to get their post counts up, which would increase activity.
Spamming the Welcome forum doesn't lead to increased discussions or activity.

[kk.]

By that principle are you saying we should enable post count within spam?

No cus then every post would have to be constructive and unless face palms and lolcats are, then it should remain how it is. A lot of the posts in spam go off topic, but welcome posts don't.

I'm not saying anything about the amount of users visiting, but you notice that the forum is far less active than it used to be. Threads go back days rather than hours in some parts, and spam goes back to the day before where it wouldn't normally

are you really that pessimistic and stupid enough to think all people are posting in the welcome forum just for post count? Maybe there are people that kind who likes to make people feel welcome and loved

[FlyingJesus]

It's amazing that people still care about their post count... really guys, grow the **** up.

This isn't directed at anyone in the thread by the way, just a general opinion.

It's allowed as an opinion and of course many people don't care about post count other than perhaps as a way of getting to a higher userrank and getting better rewards from that, but that's not the singular view across the forum and especially in the Habbo sections and possibly other areas frequented by the younger and newer members post count is seen as some degree of authority. That's why it's an issue now, why it's been an issue in the past and why it will always be an issue in some way, especially when people can (and certainly have in the past) abuse that illusion of authority.

Besides, this debate is only taking place because one member happened to raise the issue. It clearly isn't causing a problem and nobody has ever brought it up before

never been a problem until now

Oh?

This was suggested aaaaaaages ago back when everyone was arguing about post count in forum games

Dan you even replied to that post, so don't come up trying to tell people it's never been an issue when you've been around long enough to know it has been.

[-:Undertaker:-]

By that principle are you saying we should enable post count within spam?

No, as the Welcome Forum has a specific purpose, and the Spam Forum doesn't to a degree. I believe the Forum Games should be allowed to increase post count though.

Like someone has already said before, the people posting so much in the Welcome forum are only doing so to get their post counts up for whatever reason. However, if the post count was disabled there, the would have to post in proper discussions to get their post counts up, which would increase activity.
Spamming the Welcome forum doesn't lead to increased discussions or activity.

Do you really care that much about somebodys post count? :S

On having to do something, no they wouldn't. They would simply stop posting, you cannot make or force somebody to do something. It isn't spamming, what else would you like somebody to say in the Welcome Forum besides Hello/Welcome/Hiya etc..? - should we all start posting in the Welcome Forum what our favourite colour is, what we did today, what we had for tea?

No cus then every post would have to be constructive and unless face palms and lolcats are, then it should remain how it is. A lot of the posts in spam go off topic, but welcome posts don't.

I'm not saying anything about the amount of users visiting, but you notice that the forum is far less active than it used to be. Threads go back days rather than hours in some parts, and spam goes back to the day before where it wouldn't normally

Thank you, common sense again.
+rep if I can.

Dan you even replied to that post, so don't come up trying to tell people it's never been an issue when you've been around long enough to know it has been.

..and now I realise that decisions like that have only harmed the forum and Habbox itself.

[Seatherny]

Thank you, common sense again.
+rep if I can.

That to me suggests that anyone who disagrees with you lacks common sense.

I think someone mentioned something about the RVR Desk being empty. I am sorry but I don't think its ever really been popular? Its a useless idea and should have never been implemented. If people want rare values they can go to habbox.com :rolleyes: or if they need help then use HxHD and make one desk popular.

Posting "Welcome to the forum" is not creating a proper discussion? :S

The reason why this forum is less active now is because people like MAD have driven them away. I left because of him (and he banned so many) and when I found out he resigned, I came back. I had PM'ed and posted many times saying MAD needs to be fired but no one listened.
Its the GMs like him who have ruined habboxforum. Honestly, nvrspk4 isnt that great either. We need a more relaxed (rules wise etc) GM who also contributes alot in discussions like Seacat and JackHb used to do.