Abuse of staff powers / Outright fail in communications and knowledge of rules.

[Robbie]

Why hasn't it being activated? Is Jin the only one who can activate VIP?



^^ This.

The special gold VIP needs to be activated manually by an admin

[Chippiewill]

They were both written by HabboxForum. Yahoo Answers and the Law are totally different.

Just like Policeman Plod arresting you for smoking and HabboxForum being different?

[Mentor]

Ok, so many posts comeing in now. And so far i've responded to all without anyone really takeing myside.

The only reason no ones winning is becuse you all can see i'm right. The rules do not state an avatar being over the size of a groups limit as being against the rules. and No, this is NOT implied. Even if it is, rules should be clear, not require you to read 3 faq articles and infer the conclusion.

FAQ - this provides answers to commonly asked questions, such as what is the max size i can set my avatar to while in this group
This is information. not rules. They are different
The faq articles also do not say it is against the rules to have an avatar bigger than the size you can set while in a group.

As no rule exists in rules. Logically i can conclude there is no rule. Simple enough?
if something is written in an faq and not stated to be a rule, i assume it is an faq article not a rule -

That seems pretty logical to me? Your logic on the other hand doesnt appear to mesh with the common usage of that word.

TruthfulLove: that would be true - IF the rule existed. The sig rule exits, the avatar one does not. Also i was not notified of the 24 hour time limit.

Saurav: there is nothing to get away with, i broke no rule. if a rule is added, then it can be inforced. Since it has not been, then it should not.

[Hecktix]

I've just done a search in the infractions forum for Profile Rule Violation infractions and there are nearing 7 pages.

All those infractions/warnings issued for the same thing you talk about here yet no other complaints?

[Seatherny]

The only reason no ones winning is becuse you all can see i'm right.

Or maybe the majority of the forum disagrees with you is because we can all see you are wrong and just arguing over silly things which are considered plain common sense. Like I said, if we followed your logic, each rule would be about 600 lines with all the if's :rolleyes:

[Chippiewill]

All those infractions/warnings issued for the same thing you talk about here yet no other complaints?

They were bullied into acceptance. Also why should a rule not be changed because Mentor is the first? Should a bad rule not be removed unless everyone who has had that rule imposed on them complains?

Or maybe the majority of the forum disagrees with you is because we can all see you are wrong and just arguing over silly things which are considered plain common sense. Like I said, if we followed your logic, each rule would be about 600 lines with all the if's

The forum rules should be written in PHP, that way we can tell if they work or not.

[Smits]

Ok, so many posts comeing in now. And so far i've responded to all without anyone really takeing myside.

The only reason no ones winning is becuse you all can see i'm right. The rules do not state an avatar being over the size of a groups limit as being against the rules. and No, this is NOT implied. Even if it is, rules should be clear, not require you to read 3 faq articles and infer the conclusion.

FAQ - this provides answers to commonly asked questions, such as what is the max size i can set my avatar to while in this group
This is information. not rules. They are different
The faq articles also do not say it is against the rules to have an avatar bigger than the size you can set while in a group.

As no rule exists in rules. Logically i can conclude there is no rule. Simple enough?
if something is written in an faq and not stated to be a rule, i assume it is an faq article not a rule -

That seems pretty logical to me? Your logic on the other hand doesnt appear to mesh with the common usage of that word.

TruthfulLove: that would be true - IF the rule existed. The sig rule exits, the avatar one does not. Also i was not notified of the 24 hour time limit.

Saurav: there is nothing to get away with, i broke no rule. if a rule is added, then it can be inforced. Since it has not been, then it should not.

Some people would be forgiven for thinking you're defending a court case.

This is only a forum, i really don't think every rule has to be written is such detail. Everyone else seemed to get the idea that there is in fact a size limit for user groups, even if it doesn't literally say that there is.

[kk.]

This is all a bit petty. I havnt read all of this but some of it I have. What's the reason you can't just have a smaller avatar image anyway? It hardly contributes a lot to your posts, since it's in your sig anyway..

And surely what you're saying is, since I bought VIP, and when it runs out, I've earnt the rank VIP and so therefore should be able to keep an avatar of 150x150..

[Mentor]

I've just done a search in the infractions forum for Profile Rule Violation infractions and there are nearing 7 pages.

All those infractions/warnings issued for the same thing you talk about here yet no other complaints?

A lot of members are to scared to complain about these things. I'm not. its in fact why i make an effort to do so. Plenty of people have tryed enforcing non- rules in the past - i dont think it should be allowed. Check back in this forum you may get a good few pages of threads i've created challenging them as well

The complain is valid. You know this. You can tell there is no rule in the rules. Even the faq articles which are not rules have no wording that suggests it is.

Because everyone else is doing it, is a poor justification.

The rule does not exist, plain and simple. Maybe it should, but in that case it should be added, not just enforced anyway.

[Robbie]

I do see where mentor is coming from in a way. He's saying the rules page does not show the limits for each usergroup, which is true. However, I'd think most people would read the FAQ aswell where it is more clearly outlined.

There is an infraction named profile violation, and you were given time to remove the oversized avatar before recieving this infraction, so you can't really say you were told prior. However I do understand that you were waiting for your VIP, however it's like carrying a gun and being stopped and about to have it siezed but you say 'i'm getting my gun lisense tomorrow' - you would get the gun back but only once your licence had been produced. You would also get a caution for carrying a firearm, think of this as the warning you got.