FA cup

[Immenseman]

barked?! GET OUT

i have proved, using the last decade that they have been drawn against premiership sides more often than not.

[brandon]

Colchester conceding 7 goals how embarrassing

[leah]

barked?! GET OUT

i have proved, using the last decade that they have been drawn against premiership sides more often than not.

Actually, you think you have, your research is somewhat flawed. You made the rookie mistake of judging the teams by their league status at this current time, if you actually looked properly you'd see that 60% of MU's 3rd round fixtures were in lower leagues at the time.

fulham
Portsmouth
Exeter
Burton
Southampton
leeds


were all in the lower leagues when they were drawn against MU in the cup!

[Immenseman]

and probably 80% were in the two top leagues therefore proving your lower league statement entirely wrong.

[leah]

and probably 80% were in the two top leagues therefore proving your lower league statement entirely wrong.

oh darling, now you're just clutching at straws to make your argument look correct. Even if it's just the league below it's still a lower league, meaning that what I said was correct after all.

[Immenseman]

even 40% proves you wrong so it doesn't matter either way, lol. i have given you facts and you haven't. the draw is the same for everybody, why can't you just accept this rather than being obsessed that united are favoured. it's just embarrassing that you think it happens to united when i've already proven it happens to arsenal too. 4/10 of their games which is almost half have been premierleague oppostion.

facts beat opinion i'm afraid, therefore i'm right - united, nor any other team have lucky or favoured draws.

[leah]

even 40% proves you wrong so it doesn't matter either way, lol. i have given you facts and you haven't. the draw is the same for everybody, why can't you just accept this rather than being obsessed that united are favoured. it's just embarrassing that you think it happens to united when i've already proven it happens to arsenal too. 4/10 of their games which is almost half have been premierleague oppostion.

facts beat opinion i'm afraid, therefore i'm right - united, nor any other team have lucky or favoured draws.

I didn't say they were favoured, theres a phrase the luck of the draw. But silly me that doesn't exist right? :S

No, 40% does not prove me wrong because I didn't say all of their opposition is lower league I said that they are often drawn against lower league opposition and 60% is more often than 40% thus proving me right. I have provided evidence, I mentioned Barnsley in the Carling Cup and then you tried to prove your point with evidence that just backed up my point further. But you don't seem to be understanding this so I'll summarise for you:

I said that MU are often drawn against lower league opposition.
You then provided evidence of them in the last decade being drawn against 60% lower league teams and 40% teams in their own league (funnily enough the teams in their own league were all below them in the table).
Because the majority of the teams they've been drawn against are lower league opposition what I said was right.

There are the facts you keep mentioning, shame they back me up instead of you though.

[Immenseman]

"Often" and "always" would imply more than 40% of the time. This thread was about the third round and the FA cup, not whatever you want to try and make yourself look right because you've become desperate to be so, when it's unequivocal you're not. I've given your draws from the last decade which totally contradicts your post, Portsmouth were promoted in 2003, admittedly there were one league below but the top of the league, hardly a huge gulf and a small side like you're implying. It's cute you're calling your own team a small side to try and prove yourself right though, really outdone your self there. "Below them in the table" I assume that was a joke seeing as about 90/92 league sides are below them at any given time. Not even including non league. Ouch - shame the post you give are just backing up what I've said.

[Mexel]

I live a hour away from Forest, i got back at 10! Nottingham station closed inbetween Derby so had to get a coach from Derby there and back from derby and train the rest. Train from Birmingham to Sutton to get back was the highly delayed,

AND IT WAS 0-0.

[leah]

"Often" and "always" would imply more than 40% of the time.

no, it implies more than half of the time. Being drawn against teams in lower leagues than you over half of the time in one competition is very lucky which is what i've been saying this whole time.

This thread was about the third round and the FA cup, not whatever you want to try and make yourself look right because you've become desperate to be so, when it's unequivocal you're not.

In my other posts i've mentioned the Carling Cup, this is because both of these competitions are run similarly. But if you only want to talk about the FA cup then fine, because theres plenty of evidence that backs up my point when just talking about the FA cup anyway. As for me resorting to anything because of my despiration to be right... could you be any more hypocritical? You've been proved wrong, you can't seem to accept it and you're just making it worse for yourself by prolonging this argument that was ended with the facts that you provided thinking that it proved you correct but with more research actually proved myself correct.

I've given your draws from the last decade which totally contradicts your post, Portsmouth were promoted in 2003, admittedly there were one league below but the top of the league, hardly a huge gulf and a small side like you're implying.

How do they contradict MY post?! When you thought that 60% of teams they'd been drawn against were in the premier league you were saying how your point had been proven but you were too naive and didn't actually check the facts you were using to solidify your point. I didn't imply Portsmouth were a small side, I didn't imply any of the teams were 'small' sides, what I said was they were sides in a lower league, which is a fact.

It's cute you're calling your own team a small side to try and prove yourself right though, really outdone your self there.

I haven't called my team 'small' in the slightest, don't be so wet. I said we're two leagues below MU which is true, so obviously the standard of football will be different.

"Below them in the table" I assume that was a joke seeing as about 90/92 league sides are below them at any given time. Not even including non league.

Again if you actually read what I wrote then you wouldn't write such nonsense. I said that the premierleague sides you were drawn against were all below you in the league.

It's quite sweet how you thought you were in the right when you thought that 60% of teams drawn against MU in the 3rd round were in the premiership. However, you were wrong. 40% were in the same league as MU at the time of the draw and they were all lower down in the league than MU. I said that MU are often drawn against lower league opposition, in the last decade (substantial evidence when you were under the false impression it agreed with your point) they were drawn against 60% lower league sides, which clearly backs up what I said in the first place.

Throughout this debate you have failed to actually read what i've said and arrogantly flounced "facts" in to support your argument, you then went on to say that facts matter more than opinion, so when these facts that you introduced to the thread actually support what i'm saying i'm going to have to agree that facts do outweigh opinion, sorry babe!