Closing threads with VIP

[Catzsy]

I dont understand why the thread Garion posted isnt in the FAQ/Forum Rules? :S
Lately I have seen rules being made and announced but not actually being updated in the FAQ?

If I am wrong, please let me know, but I cant find the closing threads rule in the FAQ/Forum Rules.

Another example of this is the posting warez links rule. Not in FAQ/Forum Rules.

This isn't good for new members as they obviously wouldn't have read the announcements.

There is a good reason for this because the features allowed for VIP have been there for years:

Heres a short list of the features you gain:

- Access to exclusive VIP Forum
- A coloured name of your choice from the selection
- A custom user title
- To be able to change your forum user name
- An avatar of 150 pixels x 150 pixels
- A signature of 700 pixels wide x 300 pixels high
- A profile picture of 250 pixels wide x 250 pixels high
- A PM storage of 600
- Exclusive access to the arcade
- See who gave you reputation
- Option to make yourself invisible
- Be able to close your own threads
- Post your birthday/events on the Habbox Calendar
- The ability to customise your own profile

VIP's have always had the privilege of closing their own threads but nothing else.

A practice started to spring up in the recent past where some VIPs basically decided to give themselves extra features and started to act like moderators i.e. closing threads with reaons such as a cooling off period and then re-opening. This could be done more than one time in the same thread. Also the practice was being used to frustrate and upset/bully other members and was VIP feature abuse. Action had to be taken because then other VIPs quite innocently started to do it.

Management have been quite lenient about this by just issuing a notice because in nvr's days when VIPs moved posts to announcements they were permanently banned for VIP feature abuse..

[Seatherny]

There is a good reason for this because the features allowed for VIP have been there for years:

Heres a short list of the features you gain:

- Access to exclusive VIP Forum
- A coloured name of your choice from the selection
- A custom user title
- To be able to change your forum user name
- An avatar of 150 pixels x 150 pixels
- A signature of 700 pixels wide x 300 pixels high
- A profile picture of 250 pixels wide x 250 pixels high
- A PM storage of 600
- Exclusive access to the arcade
- See who gave you reputation
- Option to make yourself invisible
- Be able to close your own threads
- Post your birthday/events on the Habbox Calendar
- The ability to customise your own profile

VIP's have always had the privilege of closing their own threads but nothing else.

A practice started to spring up in the recent past where some VIPs basically decided to give themselves extra features and started to act like moderators i.e. closing threads with reaons such as a cooling off period and then re-opening. This could be done more than one time in the same thread. Also the practice was being used to frustrate and upset/bully other members and was VIP feature abuse. Action had to be taken because then other VIPs quite innocently started to do it.

Management have been quite lenient about this by just issuing a notice because in nvr's days when VIPs moved posts to announcements they were permanently banned for VIP feature abuse..

Still a good idea to clear it up for new members and there's nothing about warez so .

[Catzsy]

Still a good idea to clear it up for new members and there's nothing about warez so .

The FAQ is for all members and new members in particular to read. Surely that is a sensible thing to do when joining a forum and in any event new members wouldn't be VIP As to the warez matter, I can't see the VIP rules as I am not VIP if there are still VIP forums :S

If so there used to be VIP Rules there. If there isn't anymore I would say you have a point. =]

[GommeInc]

I see the point about things missing from the rules, such as the Warez things.

In terms of the VIP rules we don't have these in the FAQ they are in the VIP forums, I'll get this added to those rules and on top of that by the way, all VIPs (including people who get VIP in the future) are forced to read that thread Garion made.

It's one of those things you wish the forum could do by itself, where you could type in hidden rules which reveal themselves when you join particular groups

[Seatherny]

The FAQ is for all members and new members in particular to read. Surely that is a sensible thing to do when joining a forum and in any event new members wouldn't be VIP As to the warez matter, I can't see the VIP rules as I am not VIP if there are still VIP forums :S

If so there used to be VIP Rules there. If there isn't anymore I would say you have a point. =]

It is, but I meant adding the thing Garion posted to the rules will avoid any confusion for new members. Its only helping them and doing no harm.

The warez has nothing to do with VIP :S.

[GommeInc]

Still a good idea to clear it up for new members and there's nothing about warez so .

That's quite an interesting point... There's nothing in the rules mentioning "Do not break the law" or any mention of illegal activities. The only mention of anything "illegal" is to do with Habbo it seems.

The rules are being worked on anyway. Hopefully they're being cut down to size (as proposed) and not being so boring and ghastly to read. Something Garion and Oli are working on last time I checked

[Catzsy]

It's one of those things you wish the forum could do by itself, where you could type in hidden rules which reveal themselves when you join particular groups

Oh Gomme - we wish but I am sure you know the FAQ by heart - you contibuted to most of it! Having said that, maybe a pm could go out to new VIPs if it could be done automatically. I don't know though if it would be possible as if done manually it could be a bit of an onerous task. @ Gupta - sorry I mistook that point and yes I would agree it would be beneficial. The clearer the rules are the better.

[Seatherny]

Oh Gomme - we wish but I am sure you know the FAQ by heart - you contibuted to most of it! Having said that, maybe a pm could go out to new VIPs if it could be done automatically. I don't know though if it would be possible as if done manually it could be a bit of an onerous task. @ Gupta - sorry I mistook that point and yes I would agree it would be beneficial. The clearer the rules are the better.

Theres an option to mass email certain usergroups - so they can email. I think there is also an option to PM certain usergroups (but I cant remember if this was built in or if it was a modification).

[GommeInc]

Oh Gomme - we wish but I am sure you know the FAQ by heart - you contibuted to most of it! Having said that, maybe a pm could go out to new VIPs if it could be done automatically. I don't know though if it would be possible as if done manually it could be a bit of an onerous task. @ Gupta - sorry I mistook that point and yes I would agree it would be beneficial. The clearer the rules are the better.

Have I? The latest course of action for me lately is having the rules cut in half. I sent Oli and Garion a PM which turned 18 rules into 4 rules with sub-sections, of course giving way to some other rules if needed. The rules definitely need changing, they're either too specific where they over-describe and add examples or suggest moderators are brainless. The rules do not state anywhere that a moderator's opinion on a situation is involved!

Although, if you cut the rules down alot, maybe you could have the VIP rules freely available? Anyone can be a VIP/Donator afterall.

Pah, you've got me ranting

PS. Glazed over what you said... Doesn't the forum email members when they have user-account changes, or am I mistaking that for the PM an editor sends to the account?

[hah]

So you want to get rid / ruin a feature that has been with VIP members for over 5 years just becuase you cant reply to the thread becuase it was closed. The only reason i bother with VIP is for this feature, otherwise i wud just go normal user with stars. Dont ruin something that isnt broken :S All what needs to be done is saying you cant re-open them like it was, you cant start telling people that they can only close certain type of threads, otherwise theres no point in the feature and its ruins. Its been fine for 5 years? why change it...

there was nothing wrong with the filtered but you complained and got it changed :S