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[-:Undertaker:-]

But all that has nothing to do with indirect sexism at all. As I said go do some research and come back with some evidence. You just fly with theories plucked from the air.

When I stated examples such as that (including some of those), you claimed I was being indirectly sexist. Am I now proved correct in the fact that I am simply stating home truths and am not being sexist in the slightest?

[Catzsy]

When I stated examples such as that (including some of those), you claimed I was being indirectly sexist. Am I now proved correct in the fact that I am simply stating home truths and am not being sexist in the slightest?

No you are just stating that there are more men than women or women than men in an occupation which has nothing to do with indirect sexism. It was other remarks you made that are sexist such as Men are more suited to be MPS because they have louder voices and it isn't really a woman's thing to be an MP etc etc. Evidence for this? You are still portraying a negative gender stereotype as men are just as capable of doing those professions as woman and vice versa. You have made a mistake berween choice and the actual capability of doing a job. Two very different things. I will requote what I said before as it still all applies and you show great reluctance to actually do any academic research on it and produce any evidence to support your claims made in bold in your quote below.

Undertaker

Politics has always been more of a male career, that doesnt mean that women shouldnt be allowed in or discriminated against just because they are women but its a fact that men with louder voices are more politically minded just as they are more minded on football.


The reason why many women may not be in parliament is because politics isnt much of a womens thing and thats a fact. Just like nursing or flight attending is not much of a mens thing.


flight attendants and nursing, they are still a mainly female dominated profession and there is nothing wrong with that. Politics on the other hand remains a male dominated profession just like building does.

Catzsy

These are your quotes and what you state is the definition of hostile sexism - there is more than one definition of sexism. Your quotes amount to indirect sexism which probably 90% of Sexual Discriminination cases are based on. You confine men and woman to stereotypical roles of the past that in reality do not reflect the ability of either men or women in the modern world - just because there are more female nurses/flight attendants it does not mean that males are not just as capable as them at doing the job. How on earth do you support the fact that because men have louder voices they are more politically minded. You also say Politics is not a woman's thing - how it is not a woman's thing? This is nonsense. This is indirect sexism and very patronising to both sexes and in fact you may not have realised that it even was. I suggest you do some research into indirect sexism as opposed to using a wicki definition.

Added to this you don't appear to be 'listening' preferring to say that I remind you of people that are from a dark period of history and that I am devoid of reality.After all there are more women in the UK than men approximately 31.0 million women compared with 29.9 million men in the UK population. This was the last survey in 2007. Having said that males occupy most positions of power still but to say that Politics is male dominated like building is pretty demeaning. Tell me what attributes women lack in order to enter politics, successfully? Choice is reality, opportunity is reality but there has to be checks and balances to redress mistakes of the past otherwise this world will never progress from a male dominated society to one that reflects the achievements of successful men & women on a more equal footing that is why there has been decades of education trying to get rid of this negative gender stereotyping and some all women shortlists are a way that Parliament has decreed that is a small way of redressing past discrimination against women. What is wrong with that? I am sure if the situtation was reversed you would agree.

[Hitman]

I was gonna write a big thing up about the BNP and why people support them, but I can be bothered with having to argue my point. Basically, people (including myself) don't like to see Britain deteriorating: (illegal) immigrants flocking in, the justice system is useless, judges don't give adequate sentences and the politicians are so politically correct it's sick. The city where I live is 50% white 50% ethnic minorities - soon to not be a minority. It'll be the first white minority city in the UK. 42% of the children in primary school don't speak English as a first language.

I was just about to go on again but I'll leave it there... I don't want to see my country Islamified. I have no problem with other races or religions, but some people like to force religions down other people's throats and I do have a problem with that. If Sharia (sp) law became default law then we'd be going back in time...

In conclusion, when people don't like what they see and leading parties won't do anything about it then people turn to the smaller parties who will. If things get so bad then there are riots and there's chaos. I hope it doesn't come to that.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No you are just stating that there are more men than women or women than men in an occupation which has nothing to do with indirect sexism. It was other remarks you made that are sexist such as Men are more suited to be MPS because they have louder voices and it isn't really a woman's thing to be an MP etc etc. Evidence for this? You are still portraying a negative gender stereotype as men are just as capable of doing those professions as woman and vice versa. You have made a mistake berween choice and the actual capability of doing a job. Two very different things. I will requote what I said before as it still all applies and you show great reluctance to actually do any academic research on it and produce any evidence to support your claims made in bold in your quote below.

I didnt say they were more suited although that is one quality which is helpful in deciding a candidate, you want someone with tough speak and a strong voice otherwise your message will not be carried. It is a fact of life that a mans stronger voice helps him get along in politics just as the wit of Thatcher helped her, Blairs slickness helped him and Michael Howard performed some excellent PMQs thanks to his wit. That is not sexist, its the truth. I know men are just as capable of doing professions as women and the same way the other way around, the fact is that some professions are just suited more to men than woman with building being the key example because men are naturally stronger.

I do not have to do academic research on the subject and nor do you and you have not for that matter. Politics isnt such a womens thing, less women I find are interested in it while men love a good moan about taxes down at the pub. This doesnt mean i'm saying women are useless, I believe Margaret Thatcher was our greatest Prime Minister in our history and she was a woman. The same goes for my two favourite monarches in our history, Queen Elizabeth I & Empress Victoria.

Added to this you don't appear to be 'listening' preferring to say that I remind you of people that are from a dark period of history and that I am devoid of reality.After all there are more women in the UK than men approximately 31.0 million women compared with 29.9 million men in the UK population.

So to ensure their are a equal number of women as men in building, do you also support restricting the number of male builders to ensure your PC politics are obeyed by everyone?

I can tell you now, you are living in a world which would totally and utterly fail.

This was the last survey in 2007. Having said that males occupy most positions of power still but to say that Politics is male dominated like building is pretty demeaning. Tell me what attributes women lack in order to enter politics, successfully? Choice is reality, opportunity is reality but there has to be checks and balances to redress mistakes of the past otherwise this world will never progress from a male dominated society to one that reflects the achievements of successful men & women on a more equal footing that is why there has been decades of education trying to get rid of this negative gender stereotyping and some all women shortlists are a way that Parliament has decreed that is a small way of redressing past discrimination against women. What is wrong with that? I am sure if the situtation was reversed you would agree.

Why is it demeaning? - i'm sorry but most women would agree that building is more for men as would most people with a pair of eyes, the same going for politics. The attributes women lack against men in politics? - the voice being the main one with the wit, any leader who is historically considered a weak character does not have any support or arouses any motivation for people to vote them. I'm sorry but its a fact of life that the feminine side of women lets them down. When people go to vote they look for strong qualities (or they should do) and while some women possess this, others do not hence why their is a missing gap.

Choice is reality so I would like to ask; why do you support restricting peoples choice (a slur on democracy and the idea of fairness) in voting for candidates(?) and why because of my gender should I be barred from standing as my local Labour MP?

You talk about discrimination and sexism, when you are doing exactly that.

[Catzsy]

Politics isnt such a womens thing, less women I find are interested in it while men love a good moan about taxes down at the pub. he attributes women lack against men in politics? - the voice being the main one with the wit, any leader who is historically considered a weak character does not have any support or arouses any motivation for people to vote them. I'm sorry but its a fact of life that the feminine side of women lets them down. When people go to vote they look for strong qualities (or they should do) and while some women possess this, others do not hence why their is a missing gap.

You are doing it again - indirect sexism and total nonsense as this can be true of both sexes.you have absolutely no evidence to back that up it is just your personal opinion. The piece in bold is the absolute worst bit.
I have done research in what amounts to sexism - I did not say it was academic but the research I looked at was.

Perhaps you should take this test to see. I already have. Then we can compare scores

http://www.understandingprejudice.or...ion=takeSurvey

[jrh2002]

Hostile Sexism Score: 3.73
Benevolent Sexism Score: 3.55

Does that mean I am a real man? LOL Not sure some random survey tells you much about me haha

[-:Undertaker:-]

You are doing it again - indirect sexism and total nonsense as this can be true of both sexes.you have absolutely no evidence to back that up it is just your personal opinion. The piece in bold is the absolute worst bit.
I have done research in what amounts to sexism - I did not say it was academic but the research I looked at was.

Perhaps you should take this test to see. I already have. Then we can compare scores

http://www.understandingprejudice.or...ion=takeSurvey

Then perhaps instead of giving me links to left wing sites with typical logos such as the Gay flag on which I find patronising you should actually look into history. It has always amazed me that how on many pages of this forum people ignore history and just rubbish what I am saying, but i'll give some examples as you always ask for how I am talking the truth. Let us look firstly at Queen Boudicca who I learnt about in Primary School. She commanded support in times when being a woman was basically being an object and let us ask why did she succeed and command support? - because she had next to none feminine qualities and used rough methods as well as rhetorical.

The second example we can look at is Queen Elizabeth I. When she came to the Throne of England because she was a woman she was riddiculed and expected to be weak and powerless. She was anything but weak and feeble. Elizabeth had a strong sense of power and an almost masculine outlook and take on the world which allowed her to eventually show the nobles, barons and ruling classes that she was not a joke, she was a powerful figurehead.

The third example is Margaret Thatcher. Why did she succeed? - not because of feminist legislation which barred any opposition to her, but because she fought her way to the top based on merit and not her sex. She also had a masculine personality which made world leaders listen and even her own party which at the time was full of aristocrats. Anne Widdecombe is another living example of this and both hate the notion that you find appealing, which is to flout your gender as a reason to succeed in life.

There you have it, three examples of some of the most powerfuland strongest leaders in history and they did not need your feminine legislation to help them. They got there on merit and the fact that they had strong voices and masculine qualities which appeal to people whether you like it or not. Let me ask you this for example; who appeals more as a Prime Minister to most people, Margaret Thatcher or somebody such as Diane Abbott MP? - Thatcher because she has a strong voice, strong opinions whereas Abbott is very feminine and your classic 'namby pamby' approach to issues.

If you still wish for me to take your left wing test then I shall do so, once you have told me that why, as a male, I should be considered less worthy and barred as standing as my local Labour MP because of my gender that I was born with?

[Catzsy]

Hostile Sexism Score: 3.73
Benevolent Sexism Score: 3.55

Does that mean I am a real man? LOL Not sure some random survey tells you much about me haha

Well thats not too bad. Mine was 1. 80 and 1.81. You do seem to be quite high on the 'real man' stakes as it seems to be higher than average. xxx See below for my scores.



@ Dan - that's a real cop out and you know it and it's not a left wing test. LOL Its the social Psychology network which is not a left wing organisation.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well thats not too bad. Mine was 1. 80 and 1.81. You do seem to be quite high on the 'real man' stakes as it seems to be higher than average. xxx See below for my scores.



@ Dan - that's a real cop out and you know it and it's not a left wing test. LOL

The site is left wing site as it is obsessed with multi-culturalism and minorities, aka pandering to the views of yourself and labelling anyone who thinks any different words such as sexist, racist, homophobic and so on. I will do your quiz when you answer my question because I know as well as you do that once I get the results back all you will be coming back with is 'yeah but the poll said your sexist but you dont realise it' - answer my question that I have been asking throughout this thread which is; why should I be barred from standing as my local Labour MP because of my gender that I was born with? - you explain to me that because of something I could not choose or control I am not worthy in your eyes to stand for parliament for my local area and then you will get your poll filled in and posted.

As for the examples I have, i'll take it as no comment?

Actually I shall answer it and I hope that you will in return answer my question, here are my results and i've answered them 100% truthfully and honestly.

[Catzsy]

No that's not to bad at all tbf if it is a first time try. I am quite surprised. I have answered this question more than once. If you were worthy of becoming a labour candidate then there should be nothing stopping you but no prospective MP has the right as far as I know to pick and choose their seat. This would apply as much to a woman as to a man. Most decent employment requires you to be 'mobile' these days and move if they want you to. We are really going around in circles here as I have already stated that in principle I agree with all women short lists until there is a fairer representation of numbers in parliament. There is nothing that a man can do that a woman cannot do as an MP - there is no difference in brain power. You have only taken about 3 examples and Diane Abbott is most definitely not namby pamby - she is a left wing feminist that I don't admire. This is a list of all the woman that have held positions of power since 1997 and I don't think that you can generalise and say their 'feminine' sides let them down and politics isn't a women's thing.

Date first
appointed
Name and offices held
1997
Rt Hon Harriet HARMAN
*
Secretary of State for Social Security and Minister for Women 1997-1998
Solicitor-General 2001 - 2005
Minister of State for the Department for Constitutional Affairs 2005 -2007
*
Leader of the House of Commons and Lord Privy Seal 2007-
Minister for Women and Equality 2007-
1997
Ms Glenda JACKSON, CBE
Under Secretary, Department for Environment, Transport and the
Regions (Minister for Transport in London) 1997-1999
1997
Rt Hon Tessa JOWELL
Minister for Public Health, Department for Health 1997-1999
Minister of State, Department for Education and Employment 1999-2001
*
Secretary of State, Culture, Media and Sport 2001-2007
*
Minister for the Olympics 2007-
*
Paymaster General 2007-
*
Minister for the Cabinet Office 2009-
*
Minister for London 2009-
1997
Rt Hon Jane KENNEDY
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 1997-
Under Secretary, Lord Chancellor’s Department 1999-2001
Minister of State, Northern Ireland Office 2001-2004
Minister of State, Work and Pensions 2004- 2005
Minister of State, Department of Health 2005-2006
Financial Sectretary to the HM Treasury 2007-2008
Minister of State, Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Minister for Farming and the Environment) 2008-
1997
Rt Hon Helen LIDDELL
Economic Secretary, HM Treasury 1997-1998
Minister of State, Scottish Office 1998-1999
Minister of State, Department for Environment, Transport & the Regions 1999-1999
Minister of State, Department for Trade and Industry 1999 - 2001
*
Secretary of State for Scotland 2001 - 2003
1997
Rt Hon Ms Estelle MORRIS
Under Secretary, Department for Education and Employment 1997-1998
Minister of State, Department for Education and Employment 1998-2001
*
Secretary of State for Department for Education and Skills 2001-2002
Minister of State, Department for Culture, Media and Sport 2003- 2005
Women in the House of Commons House of Commons Information Office Factsheet M4 Appendix C
Date first
appointed
Name and offices held
1997
Rt Hon Dr Marjorie MOWLAM
*
Secretary of State for Northern Ireland 1997-1999
*
Minister for the Cabinet Office and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster 1999-2001
1997
Ms Bridget PRENTICE
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 1997-1998
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2003- 2005
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Constitutional Affairs 2005-2009
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State Ministry of Justice 2009-
1997
Rt Hon Dawn PRIMAROLO
Financial Secretary, HM Treasury 1997-1999
Paymaster General, HM Treasury 1999-2007
Minister of State for Public Health 2007-2009
Minister of State, Department of Children Schools and Families 2009-
1997
Rt Hon Joyce QUIN
Minister of State, Home Office 1997-1998
Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office 1998-1999
Minister of State, Ministry for Agriculture, Fisheries and Food 1999-2001
1997
Mrs Barbara ROCHE
Under Secretary, Department for Trade and Industry 1997-1999
Financial Secretary, HM Treasury 1999-1999
Minister of State, Home Office 1999-2001
Minister of State, Cabinet Office 2001-2002
Minister of State, Office of the Deputy Prime Minister 2002-2003
1997
Joan RUDDOCK
Under Secretary for Women, Department for Social Security 1997-1998
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Environment, Food and Rural Affairs 2007--2008
Minister of State Department of Energy and Climate Change 2008-
1997
Rt Hon Clare SHORT
*
Secretary of State, Department for International Development 1997-2003
Women in the House of Commons House of Commons Information Office Factsheet M4 Appendix C
1998
Rt Hon Ms Patricia HEWITT
Economic Secretary, HM Treasury 1998-1999
Minister of State, Department for Trade and Industry 1999-2001
*
Secretary of State, Department for Trade and Industry 2001- 2005
*
Secretary of State, Department of Health 2005 -2007
1998
Rt Hon Margaret HODGE MBE
Under Secretary, Department for Education and Employment 1998-2001
*
Minister of State, Department for Education and Skills 2001- 2005
Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions 2005 - 2006
Minister of State, Department of Trade and Industry 2006 -2007
Minister of State, Culture, Media and Sport 2007-2008
1998
Miss Kate HOEY
Under Secretary, Home Office 1998-1999
Under Secretary, Department for Culture, Media and Sport 1999-2001
1998
Rt Hon Anne McGUIRE
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 1998-2001
Whip, HM Treasury 2001-2002
Parliamentary Secretary, Scotland Office 2002
Minister of State, Scotland Office 2002-2003
Lords Commissioner, HM Treasury 2001
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department for Constitutional Affairs
2003-2005
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department for Work and Pensions 2005-2008
1999
Dr Lynda CLARK, QC
Advocate General for Scotland 1999-2003
1999
Rt Hon Yvette COOPER
Parliamentary Secretary, Department of Health (Minister for Public Health) 1999-2002
Parliamentary Secretary, Lord Chancellor’s Department 2002-2003
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Office of the Deputy Prime Minister 2003-2005
Minister of State, Communities and Local Government 2006-2008
*
Chief Secretary to the HM Treasury 2008-2009
*
Secretary of State for Work and Pensions 2009-
Women in the House of Commons House of Commons Information Office Factsheet M4 Appendix C
1999
Rt Hon Beverley HUGHES
Under Secretary, Department for the Environment, Transport & the Regions 1999-2001
Parliamentary Secretary, Home Office 2001-2002
Minister of State, Home Office 2002-2004
Minister of State, Department for Education and Skills 2005-2007
Department for Children, Schools and Families 2007-2009
Minister for the North-West 2007-2009
1999
Miss Melanie JOHNSON
Economic Secretary, HM Treasury 1999-2001
Parliamentary Secretary, Department for Trade and Industry 2001-2003
Minister of State, Department of Health 2003-2005
1999
Rt Hon Jacqui SMITH
Under Secretary, Department for Education & Employment 1999-2001
Minister of State, Department for Health 2001-2003
Minister of State, Department of Trade and Industry 2003-2005
Minister of State, Department for Education and Skills 2005-2006
*
Parliamentary Secretary to the HM Treasury (Chief Whip) 2006-2007
*
Secretary of State for the Home Office 2007-2009
1999
Ms Gisela STUART
Under Secretary, Department for Health 1999-2001
2001
Rt Hon Hazel BLEARS
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Health 2001-2003
Minister of State, Home Office 2003-2006
*
Minister without Portfolio and Party Chair, 2006-2007
*
Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government 2007-2009
2001
Maria EAGLE
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Works and Pensions 2001-2005
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Education and Skills 2005-2006
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Northern Ireland Office 2006-2007
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Justice 2007-2009
Minister of State, Ministry of Justice - (jointly with the Government Equalities Office) 2009-
2001
Ms Sally KEEBLE
Parliamentary Secretary, Department for Transport, Local Government and the Regions 2001-2002
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for International Development 2002-2003
Women in the House of Commons House of Commons Information Office Factsheet M4 Appendix C
2001
Rt Hon Ruth KELLY
Economic Secretary, HM Treasury 2001-2002
Financial Secretary, HM Treasury 2002- 2004
*
Minister of State, Cabinet Office 2004-2004
*
Secretary of State, Education and Skills 2004-2006
*
Secretary of State, Communities and Local Government 2006-2007
*
Minister for Women 2006-2007
Secretary of State for Transport 2007-2008
2001
Angela SMITH
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2001-2003
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Northern Ireland Office 2002-2006
Minister of State, Communities and Local Government 2006-2007
Minister of State, Cabinet Office 2009-
2001
Rt Hon Rosie WINTERTON
Parliamentary Secretary, Department of the Lord Chancellor 2001-2003
Minister of State, Department of Health 2003-2007
Minister of State, Department of Transport 2007-2008
Minister of State, Department Work & Pensions 2008-2009
Minister for Yorkshire and Humber 2008-
Minister of State, Business Innovation and Skills - (jointly with the Department for Communities and Local Government) 2009-
2002
Rt Hon Joan RYAN
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2002-2003
Lord Commissioner, HM Treasury 2003-2006
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Home Office 2006-2007
2002
Charlotte ATKINS
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2002-
Parliamentary Under Secretary, Transport 2004-2005
2002
Gillian MERRON
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2002-2004
Lord commissioner, HM Treasury 2004-2006
Parliamentary Under Secretary, Department for Transport 2006-2007
Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office 2007-2008
Minister for the East Midlands 2007-2008
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for International Development 2008 (jointly with the Foreign and Commonwealth Office)2008-2009
Minister of State, Department of Health 2009-
Women in the House of Commons House of Commons Information Office Factsheet M4 Appendix C
2003
Rt Hon Caroline FLINT
Parliamentary Under Secretary, Home Office 2003-2006
Minster of State, Department of Health 2006-2007
Minister of State, Department of Work and pensions 2007-2008
Minister for Yorkshire and Humber 2007-2008
*
Minister for Housing and Planning (attending Cabinet), Department for Communities and Local Government Minister of State 2008
Minister of State (Europe), Foreign and Commonwealth Office 2008-2009
2003
Fiona MACTAGGART
Parliamentary Under Secretary, Home Office 2003-2006
2003
Margaret MORAN
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2003-2005
2005
Meg MUNN
Parliamentary Under Secretary, Department for Trade and Industry 2005-2006
Minister of State, Communities and Local Government 2006-2007
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office 2007-2008
2005
Clare WARD
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2005-2006
Lord commissioner, HM Treasury 2006-2008
Vice Chamberlain, HM Household 2008-2009
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State ,Ministry of Justice 2009-
2006
Vera BAIRD
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Constitutional Affairs 2006-2007
Solicitor General 2007-
2006
Liz BLACKMAN
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2006-2007
Government Whip 2007-2008
2006
Diana Johnson
Chief Secretary to the HM Treasury 2006-2007
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2007-2009
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State Department Children Schools and Families 2009-
Women in the House of Commons House of Commons Information Office Factsheet M4 Appendix C
2007
Barbara FOLLETT
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Departof Work and Pensions 2007
Minister for the East of England 2007-
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Work and Pensions 2007
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Government Equalities Office 2008-2009
Parliamentary Under-Secretary ,Department for Culture, Media & Sport 2008-2009
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Communities and Local Government 2009-
Minister for the East of England 2007-
2007
Helen Goodman
Parliamentary Secretary, Deputy Leader of the House of Commons 2007-2008
Assistant Whip, HM Treasury 2008-2009
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State – Department for Work & Pensions 2009-
2007
Meg Hillier
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Home Office 2007-
2007
Siobhain McDonagh
Assistant Government Whip 2007-2008
2007
Alison Seabeck
Assistant Government Whip 2007-2008
2007
Kitty Ussher
Economic Secretary to the HM Treasury 2007-2008
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Work and Pensions 2008-2009
Exchequer Secretary, HM Treasury Kitty Ussher MP 2009
2009
Sarah McCarthy-Fry
Parliamentary Under Secretary of Stat,e Department of Communities and Local Government 2009
Exchequer Secretary 2009-
2009
Ann Keen
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department of Health 2009-
2009
Barbara Keeley
Parliamentary Secretary, Office of the leader of the House of Commons 2009-
2009
Ann McKechin
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Scotland Office 2009-
Women in the House of Commons House of Commons Information Office Factsheet M4 Appendix C
2009
Helen Jones
Government Whip (Vice Chamberlain of HM Household) 2009-
2009
Dawn Butler
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury & Parliamentary Secretary Cabinet Office 2009-
2009
Lyn Brown
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2009-
2009
Sharon Hodgson
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2009-
2009
Mary Creagh
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2009-
2009
Kerry McCarthy
Assistant Government Whip, HM Treasury 2009-
Women in the House of Commons House of Commons Information Office Factsheet M4 Appendix C
Notes:
* Cabinet post. This list shows the twenty four women Members of the House of Commons who have held posts in the Cabinet:
There are currently 4 women Members of the Cabinet:
Rt Hon Harriet Harman QC MP
Rt Hon Tessa Jowell MP
Rt Hon Yvette Cooper MP
Rt Hon Baroness Royall of Blaisdon
Women Peers who attended Cabinet
1982-83 – Baroness Young, was a member of the Cabinet as Lord Privy Seal and Leader of the House of Lords
1998 – 2001 – Baroness Jay of Paddington became a Cabinet Minister as Leader of the Lords and Minister for Women
2003-2004 – Baroness Amos became a Cabinet Minister as Secretary of State for International Development
2004-2007 – Baroness Amos also served as Leader of the House of Lords and Lord President of the Council
2007- 2008 – Baroness Ashton became a Cabinet Minister as Leader of the House of Lords and Lord President of the Council
2008 Rt Hon Baroness Royall of Blaisdon became a Cabinet Minister as Leader of the House of Lords and Lord President of the Council
2009 Rt Hon Baroness Royall of Blaisdon also served as Leader of the House of Lords and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster